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I am curious to see if there is neutral third party that can document all the accusations and print out the results. I have zero trust in Russia and Putin gangs

I am curious to see if there is neutral third party that can document all the accusations and print out the results. I have zero trust in Russia and Putin gangsters but so far Ukraine has far exceeded to crying out wolf. Two unresolved cases that I am looking for neutral information: The maternity hospital bombing: The woman being photographed said in an video interview that the ukraine army had pushed everyone out and occupied the building. The railway station bombing: Russia initially said they bombed the ukranian army at the station and quickly deleted the the tweet. The missile that's shown at the location is however a tochka 2 missile and even the serial number is supposed to be Ukranian. who is right and is there an independent inquiry into it? Pretty sure Russia fucked up here but do we have conclusive answer on who the missile belongs to? especially since Russia neither uses tochka 2 nor has any army within the range of the tochka 2 missile. Also is Biden hyper because of his son's investments all over Ukraine? It was proven to be true and he does have millions in investments. wouldn't the be conflict of interest and why Biden is hell bent on saving Ukraine?

mike_k 5y ago
On the Kramatorsk train station attack. No, Russia had Tochka U officially in use (and of course we're also able to bring them up from storage, as it does with other old equipment now). Can you show the source for the serial number? https://t.me/CITeam/2463 https://t.me/CITeam/2463 I am linking a report by an inependent Russian citizens driven "Conflict Intelligence Team". This way it may look more credible or less biased in your eyes. All in all, Russia can't deny these cerimes but makes everything to leave you uncertain and confused. Eventually you stop treating any version or investigate seriously. It seems this strategy works (
- ShivShankaran 5y ago
  Fair enough. The report by the independent team makes compelling sense on why Russia fucked up and I am convinced that it is indeed Russia that miscalculated and blew up a civilian railway station.
artem247 5y ago
ant6n 5y ago
The Interview with Marianna, one of the victims of the Mariupol maternity hospital bombing, was published by Russian media - its likely she was deported / kidnapped / apprehended at checkpoint while evacuating, to the Russia side. The interview may be forced. The OSInt community talked about it, but I didn’t find good sources. But that her new interview contradicts all other sources (except Russian ones) has been reported: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-misinformation-bombings-a39d9438da3c55d691742229cc87b2a0 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-misinformat...
- ShivShankaran 5y ago
  I agree to the poster above that Russia fucked up and blew a civilian train station. However for the maternity hospital I am much more skeptical. Also note that Marianna is from Donetsk which is predominantly pro-russian and anti-ukranian. She also said that only very few people were left behind in her wing and rest were transferred to the basement. This is evident by the fact that there were only two injuries. Where are the photos of the rest of the people?

mike_k 5y ago

On the Kramatorsk train station attack. No, Russia had Tochka U officially in use (and of course we're also able to bring them up from storage, as it does with other old equipment now). Can you show the source for the serial number? https://t.me/CITeam/2463 https://t.me/CITeam/2463 I am linking a report by an inependent Russian citizens driven "Conflict Intelligence Team". This way it may look more credible or less biased in your eyes. All in all, Russia can't deny these cerimes but makes everything to leave you uncertain and confused. Eventually you stop treating any version or investigate seriously. It seems this strategy works (

ShivShankaran 5y ago
Fair enough. The report by the independent team makes compelling sense on why Russia fucked up and I am convinced that it is indeed Russia that miscalculated and blew up a civilian railway station.

artem247 5y ago

ant6n 5y ago

The Interview with Marianna, one of the victims of the Mariupol maternity hospital bombing, was published by Russian media - its likely she was deported / kidnapped / apprehended at checkpoint while evacuating, to the Russia side. The interview may be forced. The OSInt community talked about it, but I didn’t find good sources. But that her new interview contradicts all other sources (except Russian ones) has been reported: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-misinformation-bombings-a39d9438da3c55d691742229cc87b2a0 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-misinformat...

ShivShankaran 5y ago
I agree to the poster above that Russia fucked up and blew a civilian train station. However for the maternity hospital I am much more skeptical. Also note that Marianna is from Donetsk which is predominantly pro-russian and anti-ukranian. She also said that only very few people were left behind in her wing and rest were transferred to the basement. This is evident by the fact that there were only two injuries. Where are the photos of the rest of the people?