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You want to see confusion? Imagine coming up to a four way stop, with four cars, and some pedestrians, where one of the cars is a Waymo vehicle and among the pe
by russellbeattie 5y ago
You want to see confusion? Imagine coming up to a four way stop, with four cars, and some pedestrians, where one of the cars is a Waymo vehicle and among the pedestrians is a little Starship delivery robot [1]
Pure chaos. Welcome to Mountain View, California where the future is now.
First, when you come to a four way stop usually one of two things happen: Either everyone knows the order in which they arrived and act accordingly, or there's a moment of hesitation while you decide as a group who goes first. Usually this is done with eye contact and slowly nudging the car forward a bit, right? But there isn't anyone in a self-driving car to make eye contact with, so everyone just cuts it off, causing it to just sit there or move dangerously slowly into the intersection. I've experienced this more than once and it's unnerving. Less because of the automated car and more because of other driver's reaction to them.
Now, imagine a little delivery robot waiting to cross with the pedestrians, but for some reason doesn't, and is now stuck by itself, attempting to cross every 30 seconds or so, turning on a little flashing light and nudging out into the road. Then stopping and backing up onto the sidewalk.
(Legally, does a robot using a pedestrian crossing require me to stop? If it was human you would. Do I need to sit there for 5 minutes while it works out how to deal with the intersection? Is a delivery bot a pedestrian?)
Anyways, the combination of the above, which I witnessed once with my own eyes around the corner from my house, was an absolute mess. Mostly because while the delivery bot and the Waymo car were playing stop-and-go with each other, impatient people just drove around them.
In the California Driver's License test there's a whole section dedicated to Cable Cars in San Francisco, as they get special privileges. I think we need to come up with some basic rules and guidelines for sharing the road with autonomous vehicles and soon. I mean, look at this video! Even the cops are bewildered about what to do.
1. https://get.starshipdeliveries.com/u/mountain-view https://get.starshipdeliveries.com/u/mountain-view
2. Delivery bot crossing the road - https://youtu.be/mL-rsgMbnGI https://youtu.be/mL-rsgMbnGI
3. Example of a Waymo causing random traffic issues in SF 10 days ago: https://youtu.be/8S7nJ-xcaIg https://youtu.be/8S7nJ-xcaIg
- trainsarebetter 5y agoYikes. “section dedicated to Cable Cars in San Francisco” if anything policy should be pushing for more trains than rules for driverless cares.
- russellbeattie 5y agoIt's a pretty simple section if I'm remembering correctly. It basically says, "Cable cars always get the right of way," then goes into details in case that wasn't clear enough.