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A terminal with UI like visual code

57 points by zebulon75018 5y ago

zebulon75018 5y ago
If you like the UX of visual code , h aterminal with UI like visual code
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GekkePrutser 5y ago
I'd love an IDE with a terminal UI just like VS Code. It would be so nice to run remotely, and on a light Dev system.
- zozbot234 5y ago
  You could start from the RHIDE interface, that's still maintained as part of the FreeDOS extras. That's basically a variety of the old DOS text-mode programming environments.
  - _abox 5y ago
    Yeah I know Rhide! I didn't know it was still maintained, I thought it was deprecated in 2002. It used to peg my cpu to 100% though back in the day when I used it. Hope they fixed that. But I'd love something more modern.
- bjoli 5y ago
  I will be that guy: Emacs can be used with the GUI and terminal with more or less the same experience. It is one of many features that makes me stick with it
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    There are a few pitfalls to that, for example you need a special incantation to enable terminal-mode mouse support. And if you try to use GUI-oriented features in the terminal, the UI is clunky and not really optimized to the standards of actual TUI widgets.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Thanks, I've never even looked at emacs to be honest. I'll give it a try.
- zebulon75018 5y ago
  Thank's for your comment . with X11 you can launch remotely , or I don't understand.
d3nj4l 5y ago
This should be marked a Show HN: , since it looks like you're the creator.
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- tessierashpool 5y ago
  logged in to upvote you
29athrowaway 5y ago
Tilix is similar.
- zebulon75018 5y ago
  Thank's for Tilix , interesting I don't know , but vcterm is Qt lib , and Tilix is gnome. I know only Qt , not gnome. ( please no troll :) )
  - 29athrowaway 5y ago
    Tilix uses GTK, it doesn't require Gnome.
    - zebulon75018 5y ago
      Yes, I tried it , it seems really good . I mentioned it on the github page. Thank's for the information.
nine_k 5y ago
What really bothers me when I see a project like this is that the window manager should be able to do that with every application, in a standard way. Docking, tabbing, window-splitting, switching between the windows organized this way should be a standard feature, much like resizing, going full-screen, dragging, minimization, etc are. I can't believe I'm the first person to come up with this idea, so I wonder what historical precedents are there. I can't remember any :(
- sime2009 5y ago
  Don't worry, you are not the first person to think of this. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_window_manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_window_manager or even start reading at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
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- powersnail 5y ago
  My conjecture is hierarchy. I remember that when I was young, most applications didn't have tabs; instead they just spawn new windows. Then, people wanted tabs, so programmers made tabs. From some point of view, a bar of tabs is just a less capable version of the taskbar/dock, and it even takes an extra row of screen estate. But what it provides, is a nice hierarchy: This is the window of MS Word, where I have 3 documents opened. This is the window of my Browser, where I have 5 websites opened. Now that they have tabs, people demand more flexibility of their tabs, and that's why we have all the docking/splitting features within the applications. They are simply the extension of tabs. Technically, a window manager can do all that, including the hierarchy. I could envision a WM that allows you to group windows together into tabs or sub-windows. I think Microsoft did something like that with tabs, but I don't know how popular it was/is. Nevertheless, it now requires the user to design their own hierarchy and grouping of windows, which is a lot mental energy into a task that is unimportant for most people. It's not as simple as having tabs that huddle inside applications by themselves. I'd imagine that a WM with such capability must be designed with a innovative and well-thought-out UX.
cmacleod4 5y ago
Nice! I might even steal a few ideas if/when I ever get round to updating my attempt at something similar: https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/gush https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/gush :-)
dTal 5y ago
Impressive bit of work. I wish it used KDE's Konsole widget though, instead of an old fork of it. I value interface unification highly.

57 points by zebulon75018 5y ago

zebulon75018 5y ago

If you like the UX of visual code , h aterminal with UI like visual code

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GekkePrutser 5y ago

I'd love an IDE with a terminal UI just like VS Code. It would be so nice to run remotely, and on a light Dev system.

zozbot234 5y ago
You could start from the RHIDE interface, that's still maintained as part of the FreeDOS extras. That's basically a variety of the old DOS text-mode programming environments.
- _abox 5y ago
  Yeah I know Rhide! I didn't know it was still maintained, I thought it was deprecated in 2002. It used to peg my cpu to 100% though back in the day when I used it. Hope they fixed that. But I'd love something more modern.
bjoli 5y ago
I will be that guy: Emacs can be used with the GUI and terminal with more or less the same experience. It is one of many features that makes me stick with it
- zozbot234 5y ago
  There are a few pitfalls to that, for example you need a special incantation to enable terminal-mode mouse support. And if you try to use GUI-oriented features in the terminal, the UI is clunky and not really optimized to the standards of actual TUI widgets.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Thanks, I've never even looked at emacs to be honest. I'll give it a try.
zebulon75018 5y ago
Thank's for your comment . with X11 you can launch remotely , or I don't understand.

d3nj4l 5y ago

This should be marked a Show HN: , since it looks like you're the creator.

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tessierashpool 5y ago
logged in to upvote you

29athrowaway 5y ago

Tilix is similar.

zebulon75018 5y ago
Thank's for Tilix , interesting I don't know , but vcterm is Qt lib , and Tilix is gnome. I know only Qt , not gnome. ( please no troll :) )
- 29athrowaway 5y ago
  Tilix uses GTK, it doesn't require Gnome.
  - zebulon75018 5y ago
    Yes, I tried it , it seems really good . I mentioned it on the github page. Thank's for the information.

nine_k 5y ago

What really bothers me when I see a project like this is that the window manager should be able to do that with every application, in a standard way. Docking, tabbing, window-splitting, switching between the windows organized this way should be a standard feature, much like resizing, going full-screen, dragging, minimization, etc are. I can't believe I'm the first person to come up with this idea, so I wonder what historical precedents are there. I can't remember any :(

sime2009 5y ago
Don't worry, you are not the first person to think of this. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_window_manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_window_manager or even start reading at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
powersnail 5y ago
My conjecture is hierarchy. I remember that when I was young, most applications didn't have tabs; instead they just spawn new windows. Then, people wanted tabs, so programmers made tabs. From some point of view, a bar of tabs is just a less capable version of the taskbar/dock, and it even takes an extra row of screen estate. But what it provides, is a nice hierarchy: This is the window of MS Word, where I have 3 documents opened. This is the window of my Browser, where I have 5 websites opened. Now that they have tabs, people demand more flexibility of their tabs, and that's why we have all the docking/splitting features within the applications. They are simply the extension of tabs. Technically, a window manager can do all that, including the hierarchy. I could envision a WM that allows you to group windows together into tabs or sub-windows. I think Microsoft did something like that with tabs, but I don't know how popular it was/is. Nevertheless, it now requires the user to design their own hierarchy and grouping of windows, which is a lot mental energy into a task that is unimportant for most people. It's not as simple as having tabs that huddle inside applications by themselves. I'd imagine that a WM with such capability must be designed with a innovative and well-thought-out UX.

cmacleod4 5y ago

Nice! I might even steal a few ideas if/when I ever get round to updating my attempt at something similar: https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/gush https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/gush :-)

dTal 5y ago

Impressive bit of work. I wish it used KDE's Konsole widget though, instead of an old fork of it. I value interface unification highly.