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I don't think the discrimination is reserved for Jewish population. That is unfortunate story of our crazy world. Pick up any country in the world and you can

by tlogan 15y ago

I don't think the discrimination is reserved for Jewish population. That is unfortunate story of our crazy world. Pick up any country in the world and you can find a story very similar to Jewish story... For example, Armenins in Turkey in 1915-16 (and latter on). Or Albanians in Serbia. Romas (Gypsies) in Nazi Germany. Palestinians in Israel. Tutsis in Rwanda. Etc. etc. We just need to always fight against things like this.

adrianwaj 15y ago
"Palestinians in Israel" Well, the big questions of our time are: are the Palestinians actually oppressed? Who's oppressing them? Does finding out the truth even matter?
- iskander 15y ago
  Wrong site for this debate.
- deleted 15y ago
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edanm 15y ago
The things you're describing are very different situations. Jews are citizens of certain countries that are discriminated against based on religion/race. As opposed to, for example, Palestinians, who are not citizens of Israel, and whose oppression or lack thereof is about other things. Note that I'm not saying anything about the morality of this or whether we need to fight it, just that the different things you talked about are objectively very different from anti-semitism.
- tlogan 15y ago
  I agree that situations are not the same in all the above cases and they cannot be compared with anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is specific to cultures based on Abrahamic religions and it really does not exist outside it. However, if you talk with people which have been sufferings these injustices you will hear the same story regardless how we classify that discrimination.
tlogan 15y ago
Why is this downvoted? Honestly...
- nandemo 15y ago
  Probably because your comparisons are extremely superficial. Jews have been persecuted in many different countries. It's a completely different situation from Tutsis in Rwanda, for instance. The only other group mentioned by you that has been discriminated against in many different places are the gypsies, but again the reasons are very different.
- jsavimbi 15y ago
  Probably because you made some points of discussion that could only be linked together in the most vague context without demonstrating any real knowledge on the subject at hand.

by tlogan 15y ago

adrianwaj 15y ago

"Palestinians in Israel" Well, the big questions of our time are: are the Palestinians actually oppressed? Who's oppressing them? Does finding out the truth even matter?

iskander 15y ago
Wrong site for this debate.
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edanm 15y ago

The things you're describing are very different situations. Jews are citizens of certain countries that are discriminated against based on religion/race. As opposed to, for example, Palestinians, who are not citizens of Israel, and whose oppression or lack thereof is about other things. Note that I'm not saying anything about the morality of this or whether we need to fight it, just that the different things you talked about are objectively very different from anti-semitism.

tlogan 15y ago
I agree that situations are not the same in all the above cases and they cannot be compared with anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is specific to cultures based on Abrahamic religions and it really does not exist outside it. However, if you talk with people which have been sufferings these injustices you will hear the same story regardless how we classify that discrimination.

tlogan 15y ago

Why is this downvoted? Honestly...

nandemo 15y ago
Probably because your comparisons are extremely superficial. Jews have been persecuted in many different countries. It's a completely different situation from Tutsis in Rwanda, for instance. The only other group mentioned by you that has been discriminated against in many different places are the gypsies, but again the reasons are very different.
jsavimbi 15y ago
Probably because you made some points of discussion that could only be linked together in the most vague context without demonstrating any real knowledge on the subject at hand.