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> How does that work if you don’t want to bake a cake? This will be a better argument when vaccine choices are added to the list of protected classes. That do

> How does that work if you don’t want to bake a cake? This will be a better argument when vaccine choices are added to the list of protected classes. That does not seem too likely, however, given that it is a choice rather than an immutable characteristic.

sneak 5y ago
Religion is a choice and not an immutable characteristic, yet that is also a protected class.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  That's not how the legal theory works, fyi. The theory is that “sincere belief” is not a choice, and since it’s impossible to determine that externally the only choices were to not protect sincere belief or to protect all religion sincere or not.
LudwigNagasena 5y ago
> This will be a better argument when vaccine choices are added to the list of protected classes. List of protected classes is just a list that can be amended, changed or entirely removed. I am not really sure how it’s an argument for anything unless you are a hardcore ultra-legalist who believes that a law, a completely artificial human construct, has some sort of divine importance over everything else. > That does not seem too likely, however, given that it is a choice rather than an immutable characteristic. It’s a weird legal meme that immutable characteristics should somehow be treated differently for the purposes of moral blameworthiness. Again, I am not really sure where it comes from and why people seem so eager to parrot it, but it looks completely baseless.
- marklubi 5y ago
  > It’s a weird legal meme that immutable characteristics should somehow be treated differently for the purposes of moral blameworthiness. >> List of protected classes is just a list that can be amended, changed or entirely removed. I am not really sure how it’s an argument for anything unless you are a hardcore ultra-legalist who believes that a law, a completely artificial human construct, has some sort of divine importance over everything else. I think that you may need to spend some time thinking about what you just said. Perhaps you need to look at your own actions
  - LudwigNagasena 5y ago
    Can you explain? I don’t understand what’s your point.

sneak 5y ago

Religion is a choice and not an immutable characteristic, yet that is also a protected class.

ashtonkem 5y ago
That's not how the legal theory works, fyi. The theory is that “sincere belief” is not a choice, and since it’s impossible to determine that externally the only choices were to not protect sincere belief or to protect all religion sincere or not.

LudwigNagasena 5y ago

> This will be a better argument when vaccine choices are added to the list of protected classes. List of protected classes is just a list that can be amended, changed or entirely removed. I am not really sure how it’s an argument for anything unless you are a hardcore ultra-legalist who believes that a law, a completely artificial human construct, has some sort of divine importance over everything else. > That does not seem too likely, however, given that it is a choice rather than an immutable characteristic. It’s a weird legal meme that immutable characteristics should somehow be treated differently for the purposes of moral blameworthiness. Again, I am not really sure where it comes from and why people seem so eager to parrot it, but it looks completely baseless.

marklubi 5y ago
> It’s a weird legal meme that immutable characteristics should somehow be treated differently for the purposes of moral blameworthiness. >> List of protected classes is just a list that can be amended, changed or entirely removed. I am not really sure how it’s an argument for anything unless you are a hardcore ultra-legalist who believes that a law, a completely artificial human construct, has some sort of divine importance over everything else. I think that you may need to spend some time thinking about what you just said. Perhaps you need to look at your own actions
- LudwigNagasena 5y ago
  Can you explain? I don’t understand what’s your point.