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Mugen along with Don Miguel translations of RPG Maker and 2d fighter maker 95 is how I got into programming. I'm guessing 99% of web developers today probably

by dham 5y ago

Mugen along with Don Miguel translations of RPG Maker and 2d fighter maker 95 is how I got into programming. I'm guessing 99% of web developers today probably wanted to be game developers. All I wanted to do was make Dragon Ball Z games. At the time 1998/1999 there were only Japanese versions of DBZ games as illegal roms. I created a few DBZ characters for Mugen, 2d Fighter maker 2nd and made an RPG maker game. I used to collaborate with other creators over AIM making characters and other things. Some people would rip sprites and edit them and I would code them. The thought of remote work being a thing now is funny as I was doing remote work when I was 12 - 17 years old I remember liking Mugen over Fighter Maker at the time because a character could be backed up to a floppy disk where as I had to use my dads zip drive to back up a Fighter Maker character.

Trasmatta 5y ago
> The thought of remote work being a thing now is funny as I was doing remote work when I was 12 - 17 years old +1. Companies were surprised that remote work "works". But many of us were basically doing remote work as hobbies during the 90s (or earlier). Not to mention the countless amazing open source projects done entirely remotely. I feel like the same logic could apply to doing work without meetings. Somehow open source and hobby projects produce amazing work without constant pointless meetings, and yet managers think work would grind to a halt without them.
- homarp 5y ago
  you can extend the same logic to what are managers in OS/hobby projects. And what "project management" method is used.
selfhifive 5y ago
I'll have to thank you for contributing to my childhood memories I guess. Used to play DBZ Mugen edition with my brother for hours.
flobosg 5y ago
> Don Miguel translations of RPG Maker (…) is how I got into programming. Same here, but I never finished any game. I spent most of my time dissecting other people’s projects and engines. With some creativity you could do impressive stuff despite the limitations.
tomatowurst 5y ago
For me it was DarkBasic that got me into coding. I discovered it in a game magazine and immediately downloaded it and it was a whole new world. It had its own weird GUI that was rendered in full screen, and there are almost NO youtube videos of some of the impressive demos like the 3D FPS Yeti game and others. My early teen years were filled daydreaming of games I could make on it and thinking it was easy because well, Basic, I ended up spending most summers just running other peoples code, creating levels that never saw any use. edit: nope I was wrong! found this old footage, brings me back memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKLEtSg9io https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKLEtSg9io
- dham 5y ago
  Oh yea DarkBasic. Good times. Do you remember the jetski game it came with. I never really made anything with it. Just got bits and pieces of stuff. I bought a license for Blitz Max and Blitz Basic also.
  - mysterydip 5y ago
    I went whole hog down the Blitz route: basic, plus, 3D, max, and finally monkey. I'm actually back to using BlitzMax for a project right now! Weird nostalgia plus re-learning.
- justinlloyd 5y ago
  Do you remember which magazine?
  - deleted 5y ago
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- pmarreck 5y ago
  wow, I had never heard of this, this looks like it would certainly have been captivating at the time to a certain kind of budding coder. (I was a very anti-Windows Mac guy at the time, and also 28, so that probably explains why I never heard of it)
LAC-Tech 5y ago
Do you by any chance remember a 2D bootleg dragonball game called "Vegetas Wrath"? It was a one player side scrolling beat 'em up, and I think it used sprites pulled from SNES games like Hyper Dimension and Butoden. I remember playing it some time in the early 2000s when DBZ was big here in NZ (a few years behind the states, as normal).
qazwse_ 5y ago
Ha, an RPG Maker forum was the first online community I really became a part of, I want to say I was 10ish? I never really made anything of note, but it introduced me to programming, web & graphic design, and introduced me to people from all over the world. I still remember my very first introduction to programming was setting a variable to flag if a chest had been opened or not.
headmelted 5y ago
We probably crossed paths back then - I had made a few characters myself and collated a few packs of neo-geo characters that weren’t in KOF. Even ran a community website briefly. It was also for me about the same time I was getting into development in a big way. I miss those days of the web. Looking back on it now, I expect a lot of people that were around before the September that never ended were saying the same of the rest of us in 98/99, but those to me really were the glory days. I’m relieved that Reddit still exists, as it’s about the closest thing to a collection of those early niche communities that we have left.
throwntoday 5y ago
Oh man Don Miguel's RPG Maker translation, I remember including on CD's I burn with friends who didn't have internet access along with music and a few 100MB divx movies
jorl17 5y ago
Out of curiosity: Ever played Dragon Ball Z: Buu Yuu Retsuden on the Sega Genesis?
- dham 5y ago
  Yes most of all the Nes, Snes, Gameboy and Sega Genesis ones. I remember the one on Genesis was sprite ripped quite a bit and edited. One of my favorite games to just play was Dragonball Z legends on Sega Saturn. Although it was hard to get to work when I was first getting into it.

by dham 5y ago

Trasmatta 5y ago

> The thought of remote work being a thing now is funny as I was doing remote work when I was 12 - 17 years old +1. Companies were surprised that remote work "works". But many of us were basically doing remote work as hobbies during the 90s (or earlier). Not to mention the countless amazing open source projects done entirely remotely. I feel like the same logic could apply to doing work without meetings. Somehow open source and hobby projects produce amazing work without constant pointless meetings, and yet managers think work would grind to a halt without them.

homarp 5y ago
you can extend the same logic to what are managers in OS/hobby projects. And what "project management" method is used.

selfhifive 5y ago

I'll have to thank you for contributing to my childhood memories I guess. Used to play DBZ Mugen edition with my brother for hours.

flobosg 5y ago

> Don Miguel translations of RPG Maker (…) is how I got into programming. Same here, but I never finished any game. I spent most of my time dissecting other people’s projects and engines. With some creativity you could do impressive stuff despite the limitations.

tomatowurst 5y ago

For me it was DarkBasic that got me into coding. I discovered it in a game magazine and immediately downloaded it and it was a whole new world. It had its own weird GUI that was rendered in full screen, and there are almost NO youtube videos of some of the impressive demos like the 3D FPS Yeti game and others. My early teen years were filled daydreaming of games I could make on it and thinking it was easy because well, Basic, I ended up spending most summers just running other peoples code, creating levels that never saw any use. edit: nope I was wrong! found this old footage, brings me back memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKLEtSg9io https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKLEtSg9io

dham 5y ago
Oh yea DarkBasic. Good times. Do you remember the jetski game it came with. I never really made anything with it. Just got bits and pieces of stuff. I bought a license for Blitz Max and Blitz Basic also.
- mysterydip 5y ago
  I went whole hog down the Blitz route: basic, plus, 3D, max, and finally monkey. I'm actually back to using BlitzMax for a project right now! Weird nostalgia plus re-learning.
justinlloyd 5y ago
Do you remember which magazine?
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
pmarreck 5y ago
wow, I had never heard of this, this looks like it would certainly have been captivating at the time to a certain kind of budding coder. (I was a very anti-Windows Mac guy at the time, and also 28, so that probably explains why I never heard of it)

LAC-Tech 5y ago

Do you by any chance remember a 2D bootleg dragonball game called "Vegetas Wrath"? It was a one player side scrolling beat 'em up, and I think it used sprites pulled from SNES games like Hyper Dimension and Butoden. I remember playing it some time in the early 2000s when DBZ was big here in NZ (a few years behind the states, as normal).

qazwse_ 5y ago

Ha, an RPG Maker forum was the first online community I really became a part of, I want to say I was 10ish? I never really made anything of note, but it introduced me to programming, web & graphic design, and introduced me to people from all over the world. I still remember my very first introduction to programming was setting a variable to flag if a chest had been opened or not.

headmelted 5y ago

We probably crossed paths back then - I had made a few characters myself and collated a few packs of neo-geo characters that weren’t in KOF. Even ran a community website briefly. It was also for me about the same time I was getting into development in a big way. I miss those days of the web. Looking back on it now, I expect a lot of people that were around before the September that never ended were saying the same of the rest of us in 98/99, but those to me really were the glory days. I’m relieved that Reddit still exists, as it’s about the closest thing to a collection of those early niche communities that we have left.

throwntoday 5y ago

Oh man Don Miguel's RPG Maker translation, I remember including on CD's I burn with friends who didn't have internet access along with music and a few 100MB divx movies

jorl17 5y ago

Out of curiosity: Ever played Dragon Ball Z: Buu Yuu Retsuden on the Sega Genesis?

dham 5y ago
Yes most of all the Nes, Snes, Gameboy and Sega Genesis ones. I remember the one on Genesis was sprite ripped quite a bit and edited. One of my favorite games to just play was Dragonball Z legends on Sega Saturn. Although it was hard to get to work when I was first getting into it.