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Can you elaborate?

by powerslacker 4y ago

Can you elaborate?

z3c0 4y ago
Personally, I don't understand why a browser needs payment functionality at all, P2P or not.
- rollcat 4y ago
  I like Apple Pay support in Safari, and use it wherever it's available. I'm not a fan of cryptocurrencies by any measure, but I can understand why people would like that.
  - beebeepka 4y ago
    Care to explain what does it mean to have payment support in the browser. Not entirely sure what apple pay is
    - rollcat 4y ago
      I see a "Pay with Apple" button (doesn't appear if you're not using Safari, I guess). I click it, and Safari pops up an OS-level dialog, prompting for TouchID / FaceID / Apple Watch / password authorisation. I authorise the payment, the goods are paid. Works on Mac, iOS, etc. The card is the same one I use to pay for stuff in a shop, so basically buying groceries and buying things online are like the same thing, one click/tap away. It's pretty neat, if you don't mind Apple being a middle man.
pmontra 4y ago
Not OP but why do I want payment implemented inside the browser?
- freedomben 4y ago
  For this and sibling comment asking basically the same question, I typed an answer here that I hope is helpful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30969911 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30969911
- barnabee 4y ago
  I don’t know about you but I hate ads and like to pay for my content, I also don’t see why I’d want to give money to intermediaries every time I pay for something. Why would I be against payments being built into browsers in a standardised and open source, open standards way if it might eventually solve those problems?
  - blitzar 4y ago
    > I don’t know about you but I hate ads and like to pay for my content Since when has paying for content meant no ads? I pay for a newspaper - ads, I pay for cable tv - ads, I pay for the internet - ads, I pay road tax - ads, I go to the cinema - ads, I buy a ticket to a sporting event - ads. That is before we get to the influencer product placement world.
    - robbedpeter 4y ago
      You can get ad-free content. Things like substack, YouTube premium, Netflix, some newspapers, lots of patreon clients, etc. That ads still exist in other places where you've ostensibly paid for the content doesn't invalidate the op's preferences.
      - blitzar 4y ago
        The ads still exist in the places you have paid for them, in litterally every example you gave. Netflix shows are giant ads. YouTube content has litteral ad reads in them. Newspapers - lol. You can get ad packed content free, you can get ad-free content, you can get paid content that has ads, or paid content that is ad-free. The "I paid for it" input has zero weight when it comes to determining if the content has ads is sponsored, infuenced or otherwise paid for.
    - barnabee 4y ago
      Hating ads and liking to pay for the content are two separate things. I can do both… 1. As long as they’re paying a reasonable amount, paying customers should be more motivating to the company than whoever’s buying ads (because they provide more revenue), which means they are hopefully trying to keep me happy with their service. 2. I hate ads because I don’t want to see them, much less be distracted, or worse, influenced by them. So I pay for content and run browser and DNS level ad blockers aggressively on all devices, as well as using reader mode wherever possible. If I can’t avoid the ads I’ll usually go without. You’ll never find me watching broadcast TV.

Can you elaborate?

z3c0 4y ago

Personally, I don't understand why a browser needs payment functionality at all, P2P or not.

rollcat 4y ago
I like Apple Pay support in Safari, and use it wherever it's available. I'm not a fan of cryptocurrencies by any measure, but I can understand why people would like that.
- beebeepka 4y ago
  Care to explain what does it mean to have payment support in the browser. Not entirely sure what apple pay is
  - rollcat 4y ago
    I see a "Pay with Apple" button (doesn't appear if you're not using Safari, I guess). I click it, and Safari pops up an OS-level dialog, prompting for TouchID / FaceID / Apple Watch / password authorisation. I authorise the payment, the goods are paid. Works on Mac, iOS, etc. The card is the same one I use to pay for stuff in a shop, so basically buying groceries and buying things online are like the same thing, one click/tap away. It's pretty neat, if you don't mind Apple being a middle man.

pmontra 4y ago

Not OP but why do I want payment implemented inside the browser?

freedomben 4y ago
For this and sibling comment asking basically the same question, I typed an answer here that I hope is helpful: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30969911 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30969911
barnabee 4y ago
I don’t know about you but I hate ads and like to pay for my content, I also don’t see why I’d want to give money to intermediaries every time I pay for something. Why would I be against payments being built into browsers in a standardised and open source, open standards way if it might eventually solve those problems?
- blitzar 4y ago
  > I don’t know about you but I hate ads and like to pay for my content Since when has paying for content meant no ads? I pay for a newspaper - ads, I pay for cable tv - ads, I pay for the internet - ads, I pay road tax - ads, I go to the cinema - ads, I buy a ticket to a sporting event - ads. That is before we get to the influencer product placement world.
  - robbedpeter 4y ago
    You can get ad-free content. Things like substack, YouTube premium, Netflix, some newspapers, lots of patreon clients, etc. That ads still exist in other places where you've ostensibly paid for the content doesn't invalidate the op's preferences.
    - blitzar 4y ago
      The ads still exist in the places you have paid for them, in litterally every example you gave. Netflix shows are giant ads. YouTube content has litteral ad reads in them. Newspapers - lol. You can get ad packed content free, you can get ad-free content, you can get paid content that has ads, or paid content that is ad-free. The "I paid for it" input has zero weight when it comes to determining if the content has ads is sponsored, infuenced or otherwise paid for.
  - barnabee 4y ago
    Hating ads and liking to pay for the content are two separate things. I can do both… 1. As long as they’re paying a reasonable amount, paying customers should be more motivating to the company than whoever’s buying ads (because they provide more revenue), which means they are hopefully trying to keep me happy with their service. 2. I hate ads because I don’t want to see them, much less be distracted, or worse, influenced by them. So I pay for content and run browser and DNS level ad blockers aggressively on all devices, as well as using reader mode wherever possible. If I can’t avoid the ads I’ll usually go without. You’ll never find me watching broadcast TV.