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Jimmy Carter rocked -- the image of him as weak or mealy-mouthed is the complete opposite of correct. Read about how he dealt with the Iranian hostage crisis, h

Jimmy Carter rocked -- the image of him as weak or mealy-mouthed is the complete opposite of correct. Read about how he dealt with the Iranian hostage crisis, he had iron principles and nerves of steel. Reagan, on the other hand, got utterly played by the Iranians. The fact that Carter was a genius is pretty cool too.

drewcoo 5y ago
I don't think the October surprise was "getting played by the Iranians." Nor was Iran-Contra. Reagan was connected, with a VP ex-CIA chief, no less. Carter is known for his "crisis of confidence" speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58
antattack 5y ago
Carter's administration supplied US arms to Indonesia fighting East Timor: "I saw intelligence that came from hard, firm sources in East Timor. There were people being herded into school buildings and set on fire. There were people herded into fields and machine-gunned. ... We knew the place was a free-fire zone and that Suharto was given the green light by the United States to do what he did. We sent the Indonesian generals everything that you need to fight a major war against somebody who doesn't have any guns. We sent them rifles, ammunition, mortars, grenades, food, helicopters. You name it; they got it. ... None of that got out in the media. No one gave a damn. It is something that I will be forever ashamed of. The only justification I ever heard for what we were doing was the concern that East Timor was on the verge of being accepted as a new member of the United Nations and there was a chance that the country was going to be either leftist or neutralist and not likely to vote [with the United States] at the UN."[1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Ti...
- wallfacer120 5y ago
  What is it that you think this proves?
Maursault 5y ago
He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, and I think by now he is a national treasure, but it isn't enough. I think President Carter should be beatified and canonized a saint, and that this be done while he's still alive. I also think we should clone him for all kinds of reasons.

drewcoo 5y ago

I don't think the October surprise was "getting played by the Iranians." Nor was Iran-Contra. Reagan was connected, with a VP ex-CIA chief, no less. Carter is known for his "crisis of confidence" speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58

antattack 5y ago

Carter's administration supplied US arms to Indonesia fighting East Timor: "I saw intelligence that came from hard, firm sources in East Timor. There were people being herded into school buildings and set on fire. There were people herded into fields and machine-gunned. ... We knew the place was a free-fire zone and that Suharto was given the green light by the United States to do what he did. We sent the Indonesian generals everything that you need to fight a major war against somebody who doesn't have any guns. We sent them rifles, ammunition, mortars, grenades, food, helicopters. You name it; they got it. ... None of that got out in the media. No one gave a damn. It is something that I will be forever ashamed of. The only justification I ever heard for what we were doing was the concern that East Timor was on the verge of being accepted as a new member of the United Nations and there was a chance that the country was going to be either leftist or neutralist and not likely to vote [with the United States] at the UN."[1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Ti...

wallfacer120 5y ago
What is it that you think this proves?

Maursault 5y ago

He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, and I think by now he is a national treasure, but it isn't enough. I think President Carter should be beatified and canonized a saint, and that this be done while he's still alive. I also think we should clone him for all kinds of reasons.