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Yeah. I mean if it had a purpose it has been served. Why don't they use all that massive CCP infrastructure to have zero tolerance for not getting vaccinated in

Yeah. I mean if it had a purpose it has been served. Why don't they use all that massive CCP infrastructure to have zero tolerance for not getting vaccinated instead? It's ludicrous.

happyopossum 5y ago
Their vaccine doesn’t work - forcing everyone to get it would only highlight that fact.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  They have the spycraft and resources to steal moderna and pfizer or even J&J if they wanted it. If that fails, they probably have the money to just buy the rights to produce it. I mean didn't sputnik at least prove somewhat effective?
  - DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
    China already has an indigenously developed vaccine (from CanSino) that uses the same technology as J&J and AstraZeneca. It's just as effective. > I mean didn't sputnik at least prove somewhat effective? Sputnik V was one of the most effective vaccines. It was more effective than J&J and AstraZeneca in phase-3 trials. > they probably have the money to just buy the rights to produce it A Chinese company, Fosun, invested in the development of the BioNTech vaccine early on, and has the rights to produce and distribute it in China. The vaccine hasn't been approved in mainland China, though. The efficacy of Chinese vaccines isn't a major issue. They're plenty effective, and 3 doses of Sinovac actually turned out to be just as effective as 3 doses of BioNTech in Hong Kong.[1] The issue is that old people in China have been hesitant to get vaccinated at all. So far, old people in China have been protected by the zero-CoVID policy, so this hasn't been an issue. If the virus starts spreading, however, it will become an issue. 1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...
- huxflux 5y ago
- DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
  The various Chinese vaccines have actually proven to be highly effective at preventing severe disease and death. In Hong Kong, 3 doses of Sinovac turned out to be just as effective (in fact, slightly more effective, though that could be statistical noise) as 3 doses of BioNTech.[1] Yet the idea that Chinese vaccines don't work is incredibly widespread in the West. It's pure prejudice, in my opinion. 1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...
throwmeariver1 5y ago
They are 1.5 billion in china it's not that easy even if you are using a protein based vaccine...

Yeah. I mean if it had a purpose it has been served. Why don't they use all that massive CCP infrastructure to have zero tolerance for not getting vaccinated instead? It's ludicrous.

happyopossum 5y ago

Their vaccine doesn’t work - forcing everyone to get it would only highlight that fact.

stjohnswarts 5y ago
They have the spycraft and resources to steal moderna and pfizer or even J&J if they wanted it. If that fails, they probably have the money to just buy the rights to produce it. I mean didn't sputnik at least prove somewhat effective?
- DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
  China already has an indigenously developed vaccine (from CanSino) that uses the same technology as J&J and AstraZeneca. It's just as effective. > I mean didn't sputnik at least prove somewhat effective? Sputnik V was one of the most effective vaccines. It was more effective than J&J and AstraZeneca in phase-3 trials. > they probably have the money to just buy the rights to produce it A Chinese company, Fosun, invested in the development of the BioNTech vaccine early on, and has the rights to produce and distribute it in China. The vaccine hasn't been approved in mainland China, though. The efficacy of Chinese vaccines isn't a major issue. They're plenty effective, and 3 doses of Sinovac actually turned out to be just as effective as 3 doses of BioNTech in Hong Kong.[1] The issue is that old people in China have been hesitant to get vaccinated at all. So far, old people in China have been protected by the zero-CoVID policy, so this hasn't been an issue. If the virus starts spreading, however, it will become an issue. 1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...
huxflux 5y ago
DiogenesKynikos 5y ago
The various Chinese vaccines have actually proven to be highly effective at preventing severe disease and death. In Hong Kong, 3 doses of Sinovac turned out to be just as effective (in fact, slightly more effective, though that could be statistical noise) as 3 doses of BioNTech.[1] Yet the idea that Chinese vaccines don't work is incredibly widespread in the West. It's pure prejudice, in my opinion. 1. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.22.22272769v...

throwmeariver1 5y ago

They are 1.5 billion in china it's not that easy even if you are using a protein based vaccine...