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I appreciate your insistence on evidence of starvation. Death from starvation generally requires 30 - 70 days without food, depending on starting weight, body f

I appreciate your insistence on evidence of starvation. Death from starvation generally requires 30 - 70 days without food, depending on starting weight, body fat, activity levels, etc. Shanghai has been under lockdown for 12 days. It is unlikely you will find any real evidence of starvation. More interesting to me are the claims that food is scarce, grocery orders are unreliable, the government has not provided sufficient rations. Most importantly, the claim that the government insisted there would be no lockdown and arrested folks for disinformation when they predicted it, thus leaving the population unprepared. Do you have any evidence that the government prepared the populace for this event? Do you have evidence they are supply sufficient rations?

djrogers 5y ago
>Death from starvation generally requires 30 - 70 days without food (Snip) > It is unlikely you will find any real evidence of starvation Whoa there - how’d you manage to move those goalposts so quickly? Starvation is a condition - death is not a required aspect of that condition. Starvation has long been considered inhumane, and a form of torture - it’s not OK all of a sudden just because you don’t have proof someone died.
- 88913527 5y ago
  Right, I read your parent comment and think, "Well, we're 12 of 30 days in". Obviously people are going to fight back, they'd have nothing to lose but still enough energy left to act. The closer you get to 30 days, the dimmer the probability becomes.
- Hnrobert42 5y ago
  I think you misunderstood my point which was that @somewhereoutth was insisting on evidence of starvation. I was noting that it was too early to see the most obvious effect, namely death. You may have misunderstood which side I was on because I started my post by saying I appreciated their insistence on evidence. I was just trying to be civil and assume positive intent.
robonerd 5y ago
Starvation starts long before death by starvation occurs.

djrogers 5y ago

>Death from starvation generally requires 30 - 70 days without food (Snip) > It is unlikely you will find any real evidence of starvation Whoa there - how’d you manage to move those goalposts so quickly? Starvation is a condition - death is not a required aspect of that condition. Starvation has long been considered inhumane, and a form of torture - it’s not OK all of a sudden just because you don’t have proof someone died.

88913527 5y ago
Right, I read your parent comment and think, "Well, we're 12 of 30 days in". Obviously people are going to fight back, they'd have nothing to lose but still enough energy left to act. The closer you get to 30 days, the dimmer the probability becomes.
Hnrobert42 5y ago
I think you misunderstood my point which was that @somewhereoutth was insisting on evidence of starvation. I was noting that it was too early to see the most obvious effect, namely death. You may have misunderstood which side I was on because I started my post by saying I appreciated their insistence on evidence. I was just trying to be civil and assume positive intent.

robonerd 5y ago

Starvation starts long before death by starvation occurs.