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You’re the one obsessed with a word. Tesla markets. They have marketing. They made marketing videos. They do not advertise. They do not have commercials, or buy

You’re the one obsessed with a word. Tesla markets. They have marketing. They made marketing videos. They do not advertise. They do not have commercials, or buy ad space in newspapers or magazines, buy space on billboards, or banner ads, use Facebook’s targeted ad campaigns, or any other form of advertising. This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. Those are two different things. You can die on that hill if you want to, but it’s fucking weird. Tesla makes some people go completely batshit insane, and I do not get it. At all.

clouddrover 5y ago
> or any other form of advertising You poor thing. Informercial: https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-advertising/ https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-adver... Informercial: https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elon-musk-cult-gigafactory-cybertruck-model-y-electric-vehicles https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elo... Informercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM A really, deeply cynical ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 > This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. You sweet summer child.
- revscat 5y ago
  > You sweet summer child. Suck my fat hog, cunt. None of those are ads. They are promotional marketing. I’m sorry you are so possessed by this need to hate and ridicule, but Tesla doesn’t advertise. That does not mean they do not promote their product. But — and here is what you are too willfully stupid to understand — advertising and marketing are not the same thing. Post all the YouTube links you want. Unless one of those is an ad that shows up before other videos on YT, it’s not an ad. It’s promotional marketing. Cunt.
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    Tesla's really done a number on you. It's the same kind of radicalization you see with QAnon adherents. The more the objective reality of the world contradicts their beliefs, the more strongly they cling to those beliefs.
    - revscat 5y ago
      Unlike you, I don’t give two shits about Tesla. We could put Musk, Bezos, Putin, and a random Saudi prince in a line and shoot them all, execution style, and I would not give a fuck. What I do care about is truth. I worship truth. It is my god. And you are a liar. You have an axe to grind against Tesla, and will pursue it in bad faith, by which I mean regardless of what facts are presented to you. Tesla does not advertise. This is a truth. You are obsessed with Tesla. This is also a truth. But know what? You’re my project. I’m a zealot when it comes to the truth. It is, as I mentioned, my God. I want to do my holy duty. I want to fight some fuck stick on the Internet. So please continue to bring it on. Continue to use your rhetorical tricks, shift blame, and all the other tiresome tactics that trolls like you resort to. Tesla does not advertise. They promote their products, but not through advertisements. By the way: Ford uses WPP as their ad agency. Toyota uses Saatchi & Saatchi. Target uses Merkle. Which advertising agency does Tesla use? For these advertisements you swear exist somewhere?
      - clouddrover 5y ago
        > It is my god. That fits. Religious zeal is often how people go wrong. It's always best to take a step back and give yourself the opportunity to be more objective.
        revscat 5y ago
        About what? What evidence is not being considered? Or… maybe my zealotry is for objectivity. To not using language as a tool to achieve predetermined outcomes. So, I noticed you didn’t answer the Question about which ad agency it is Tesla uses. Is this the point where you just abandon all pretense, and avoid having a discussion? Instead choosing to evolve into ad hominem and other rhetorical tricks? That’s usually the pattern here, right. The discussion goes into a direction that you can no longer a fan, so instead of admitting any kind of change of opinion based upon new information - like people who are discussing things in good faith do — they simply resort to short quips that divert from the real conversation and allow them to have the final word.

clouddrover 5y ago

> or any other form of advertising You poor thing. Informercial: https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-advertising/ https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-adver... Informercial: https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elon-musk-cult-gigafactory-cybertruck-model-y-electric-vehicles https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elo... Informercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM A really, deeply cynical ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 > This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. You sweet summer child.

revscat 5y ago
> You sweet summer child. Suck my fat hog, cunt. None of those are ads. They are promotional marketing. I’m sorry you are so possessed by this need to hate and ridicule, but Tesla doesn’t advertise. That does not mean they do not promote their product. But — and here is what you are too willfully stupid to understand — advertising and marketing are not the same thing. Post all the YouTube links you want. Unless one of those is an ad that shows up before other videos on YT, it’s not an ad. It’s promotional marketing. Cunt.
- clouddrover 5y ago
  Tesla's really done a number on you. It's the same kind of radicalization you see with QAnon adherents. The more the objective reality of the world contradicts their beliefs, the more strongly they cling to those beliefs.
  - revscat 5y ago
    Unlike you, I don’t give two shits about Tesla. We could put Musk, Bezos, Putin, and a random Saudi prince in a line and shoot them all, execution style, and I would not give a fuck. What I do care about is truth. I worship truth. It is my god. And you are a liar. You have an axe to grind against Tesla, and will pursue it in bad faith, by which I mean regardless of what facts are presented to you. Tesla does not advertise. This is a truth. You are obsessed with Tesla. This is also a truth. But know what? You’re my project. I’m a zealot when it comes to the truth. It is, as I mentioned, my God. I want to do my holy duty. I want to fight some fuck stick on the Internet. So please continue to bring it on. Continue to use your rhetorical tricks, shift blame, and all the other tiresome tactics that trolls like you resort to. Tesla does not advertise. They promote their products, but not through advertisements. By the way: Ford uses WPP as their ad agency. Toyota uses Saatchi & Saatchi. Target uses Merkle. Which advertising agency does Tesla use? For these advertisements you swear exist somewhere?
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      > It is my god. That fits. Religious zeal is often how people go wrong. It's always best to take a step back and give yourself the opportunity to be more objective.
      - revscat 5y ago
        About what? What evidence is not being considered? Or… maybe my zealotry is for objectivity. To not using language as a tool to achieve predetermined outcomes. So, I noticed you didn’t answer the Question about which ad agency it is Tesla uses. Is this the point where you just abandon all pretense, and avoid having a discussion? Instead choosing to evolve into ad hominem and other rhetorical tricks? That’s usually the pattern here, right. The discussion goes into a direction that you can no longer a fan, so instead of admitting any kind of change of opinion based upon new information - like people who are discussing things in good faith do — they simply resort to short quips that divert from the real conversation and allow them to have the final word.