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>First of all, they are by definition not vertically integrated, because the same company doesn't create the hardware and the OS. What matters is that they put
by daneel_w 5y ago
>First of all, they are by definition not vertically integrated, because the same company doesn't create the hardware and the OS.
What matters is that they put the combined product through mostly the same testing. While the PC OEMs have only some to say about Windows' direction, they have the same experience picking components and integrating for Windows as Apple has for macOS.
- danaris 5y agoThat's still missing the point. Apple isn't just "picking components and integrating". They make the whole thing from scratch to work together.
- raverbashing 5y ago> What matters is that they put the combined product through mostly the same testing. No. Not even close. You'd be surprised at the level of testing most OEMs do. It is not zero but at the same time it is not at the same level as Apple. Apple controls the SMC and Firmware/UEFI. Dell, HP, etc buys the one that comes with the board. Apple "hand picks" most of the components. Few PCs are custom designs, most are OEM designs.
- daneel_w 5y agoPlease stop making this sound like OEM PC laptops are "in the wind" and almost to the point of just getting lucky with the final platform. It's an absurd discrediting of the decades of experience and work going into them.
- rbreaves 5y agoBut that’s a true assessment despite all that’s on paper there’s a lot left to chance in actual use. Will the trackpad use Windows Precision or won’t it? Will the screen be decent or won’t it? Will the battery life suck or won’t it? There’s numerous quality of life question any Windows will have to ask before even getting to the actual specs of CPU, RAM & GPU.