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It'd benefit the discussion in a forum filled with non-Indians if you explained what he meant. But I assume it's a caste-thing...

nindalf 5y ago
It would benefit the non Indians, certainly. And it’d also get me flagged. But what the hell, I’ll say it. OP is an upper caste male. You won’t see many “India is doing great! I’m heading back there!” posts from Indian women or Indian Muslims or Indian Dalits. That’s what I meant. I’m similar to the OP in that I’m an upper caste male as well. The difference between me and him is that I can understand and empathise with the difficulties faced by people different from me.
- nomemory 5y ago
  Why do you think he is not capable of showing empathy to the people different than him.
  - nindalf 5y ago
    A person speaking about the opportunities in India solely based on VC funding while speaking about none of the downsides to people different than him gives me that impression. And the downsides for people different from him and me are numerous, if you open your eyes to it. OP could be a remarkably empathic and kind person for all I know. But this post doesn’t show it.
- tempo3040 5y ago
  - nindalf 5y ago
    Hahaha, new account created 11 minutes ago. Tell me why I should even dignify your blatant whataboutism with a response. Meanwhile me, 8 year old account with 11k karma. I have the courage to say what I want tied to this identity while you don’t.
- Dharmakirti 5y ago
  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are tons of posts by Indian women, Muslims and Dalits that show that they’re also ascendant, but if you only look at -ve aspects you will always find dirt. I grew up in rural area and I’m not a savarna. I studied in Govt institutions and most of my non-Savarna batch mates are doing just fine. We don’t need savarna apologists to tell us what is the ground reality.
  - nindalf 5y ago
    > There are tons of posts Ok, go ahead and link 5 of them. Hyperlinks on the internet are free :)
    - Dharmakirti 5y ago
      It’s telling that you skipped the real criticisms about your toxic empathy and lack of solutions to the casteism problem. Grovelling in firanghi forums and seeking gora validation by finger pointing will not help eliminate the problem in rural India. Avarnas are not a karma farms for savarnas on the internet.
      - nindalf 5y ago
        Yeah that’s what I thought. Not even a single one of the “tonnes of links” you promised. > toxic empathy What does this even mean, hahaha. Because I point out that life is difficult for women in India, that’s toxic? Pointing out that all the women I know who have emigrated don’t want to move back unless they’re guilted into caring for family, that’s toxic? You throwing casteist slurs (“savarna”, twice) my way, accusing me of doing this for farming karma, that’s not toxic? I have 11000 karma, you have 22. Karma isn’t even something I think about unless someone brings it up. It just passively increases. I certainly didn’t point out the shortcomings of OPs article for the 20 (?) karma I supposedly farmed on this thread.
        Dharmakirti 5y ago
- mama123 5y ago
  My suspicion here is that most people who bring up "caste" or Anti-Modi here on HN are not Hindus at all. Usually "upper caste" christians, Ashraf muslims/Paki or pro-congress children of super rich or super powerful bureaucrats who benefited greatly from the previous corrupt regime.
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nindalf 5y ago

It would benefit the non Indians, certainly. And it’d also get me flagged. But what the hell, I’ll say it. OP is an upper caste male. You won’t see many “India is doing great! I’m heading back there!” posts from Indian women or Indian Muslims or Indian Dalits. That’s what I meant. I’m similar to the OP in that I’m an upper caste male as well. The difference between me and him is that I can understand and empathise with the difficulties faced by people different from me.

nomemory 5y ago
Why do you think he is not capable of showing empathy to the people different than him.
- nindalf 5y ago
  A person speaking about the opportunities in India solely based on VC funding while speaking about none of the downsides to people different than him gives me that impression. And the downsides for people different from him and me are numerous, if you open your eyes to it. OP could be a remarkably empathic and kind person for all I know. But this post doesn’t show it.
tempo3040 5y ago
- nindalf 5y ago
  Hahaha, new account created 11 minutes ago. Tell me why I should even dignify your blatant whataboutism with a response. Meanwhile me, 8 year old account with 11k karma. I have the courage to say what I want tied to this identity while you don’t.
Dharmakirti 5y ago
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are tons of posts by Indian women, Muslims and Dalits that show that they’re also ascendant, but if you only look at -ve aspects you will always find dirt. I grew up in rural area and I’m not a savarna. I studied in Govt institutions and most of my non-Savarna batch mates are doing just fine. We don’t need savarna apologists to tell us what is the ground reality.
- nindalf 5y ago
  > There are tons of posts Ok, go ahead and link 5 of them. Hyperlinks on the internet are free :)
  - Dharmakirti 5y ago
    It’s telling that you skipped the real criticisms about your toxic empathy and lack of solutions to the casteism problem. Grovelling in firanghi forums and seeking gora validation by finger pointing will not help eliminate the problem in rural India. Avarnas are not a karma farms for savarnas on the internet.
    - nindalf 5y ago
      Yeah that’s what I thought. Not even a single one of the “tonnes of links” you promised. > toxic empathy What does this even mean, hahaha. Because I point out that life is difficult for women in India, that’s toxic? Pointing out that all the women I know who have emigrated don’t want to move back unless they’re guilted into caring for family, that’s toxic? You throwing casteist slurs (“savarna”, twice) my way, accusing me of doing this for farming karma, that’s not toxic? I have 11000 karma, you have 22. Karma isn’t even something I think about unless someone brings it up. It just passively increases. I certainly didn’t point out the shortcomings of OPs article for the 20 (?) karma I supposedly farmed on this thread.
      - Dharmakirti 5y ago
mama123 5y ago
My suspicion here is that most people who bring up "caste" or Anti-Modi here on HN are not Hindus at all. Usually "upper caste" christians, Ashraf muslims/Paki or pro-congress children of super rich or super powerful bureaucrats who benefited greatly from the previous corrupt regime.
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