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They already know english for the job, so its not like its an extra requirement

by GoOnThenDoTell 5y ago

AlecSchueler 4y ago
The job? What about private pilots?
- t0mas88 4y ago
  Still mandatory to be proficient in English. EASA makes everyone pass an English exam, including private pilots.
iso1210 4y ago
Imagine for a second the international language of planes was German. As an American who's an international pilot you of course speak German, although not as well as you speak English. Now imagine you're a bush pilot flying around Alaska in a Cesna flying near Anchorage. Imagine being forced to speak German to your fellow American ATCs.
- kalimanzaro 4y ago
  Sounds like a scene from The Man In The High Castle.
- gilrain 4y ago
  Your question backfires: Americans are used to being humiliated by their employers and see nothing wrong with the hypothetical.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  These aren't bush pilots. They're professional airline transport pilots. Their job requires a proficient level of aviation English. I've never heard of the English rule being ignored anywhere else except perhaps at tiny airports without proper radio discipline. Though I was only a private pilot. It's not that it has to be in English because it's meant to be a better language. It's because the international community chose it. English is a requirement because lives were lost because of this (think Avianca 52). Foreign pilots have to do a language test to get their license. Even for a PPL. At least here in Europe. Also the phraseology of radio communication is pretty specific and even a native English speaker wouldn't make heads or tails of it if they have no knowledge of aviation. It isn't really English as such. It's no coincidence that the French invented the word Chauvinism :) I the multinational company I work for I've never seen a people so angered at having to speak another language than the French.
fivea 4y ago
> They already know english for the job (...) You're somehow presuming that there is no functional difference between being a native speaker and knowing a language as second or third language.

They already know english for the job, so its not like its an extra requirement

AlecSchueler 4y ago

The job? What about private pilots?

t0mas88 4y ago
Still mandatory to be proficient in English. EASA makes everyone pass an English exam, including private pilots.

iso1210 4y ago

Imagine for a second the international language of planes was German. As an American who's an international pilot you of course speak German, although not as well as you speak English. Now imagine you're a bush pilot flying around Alaska in a Cesna flying near Anchorage. Imagine being forced to speak German to your fellow American ATCs.

kalimanzaro 4y ago
Sounds like a scene from The Man In The High Castle.
gilrain 4y ago
Your question backfires: Americans are used to being humiliated by their employers and see nothing wrong with the hypothetical.
GekkePrutser 4y ago
These aren't bush pilots. They're professional airline transport pilots. Their job requires a proficient level of aviation English. I've never heard of the English rule being ignored anywhere else except perhaps at tiny airports without proper radio discipline. Though I was only a private pilot. It's not that it has to be in English because it's meant to be a better language. It's because the international community chose it. English is a requirement because lives were lost because of this (think Avianca 52). Foreign pilots have to do a language test to get their license. Even for a PPL. At least here in Europe. Also the phraseology of radio communication is pretty specific and even a native English speaker wouldn't make heads or tails of it if they have no knowledge of aviation. It isn't really English as such. It's no coincidence that the French invented the word Chauvinism :) I the multinational company I work for I've never seen a people so angered at having to speak another language than the French.

fivea 4y ago

> They already know english for the job (...) You're somehow presuming that there is no functional difference between being a native speaker and knowing a language as second or third language.