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Every now and then this old Penny Arcade comic comes to mind: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/05/15/argumentum-ad-verecundiam https://www.penny-arcade.c

by cnasc 5y ago

Every now and then this old Penny Arcade comic comes to mind: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/05/15/argumentum-ad-verecundiam https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/05/15/argumentum-ad-... Every company on earth is trying to get their $infinity from me, and I can’t help but feel that almost none of them provide anything worth that much.

musicale 5y ago
Regarding the comic: 1. The Zune is a better deal unless you live for 200 years or plan to bequeath the music files to your descendants. 2. Apple Music is now a subscription service. 3. Steve Jobs knew everyone circa 2000 had a stash of unlicensed MP3 files that they paid $0 for but needed a handy way to play on the go. Nonetheless I agree with you - not because subscriptions are necessarily a bad value in terms of money (though they often are) but because managing dozens of subscriptions takes time and attention that I'd rather not spend, and the feeling that money is continuously draining out of my wallet just to keep some lousy app working is unpleasant.
- marcellus23 5y ago
  “Apple Music is now a subscription service” Apple Music was always a subscription service, that’s what Apple Music launched as. The iTunes Store is still around and works the same as always, and the app still lets you rip CDs and sync those. Apple Music hasn’t replaced anything. Moreover, the iPod was a very popular device from 2001 for a decade or more. I think you’re overestimating how much of people’s music collections came from Napster rather than CDs and the iTunes Store.
  - musicale 5y ago
    Yes, that is indeed correct – and the "now" is technically correct as well, if perhaps redundant (and you can probably understand what I was getting at.) But let me elaborate a bit, since I think you will appreciate it: Apple's Music app on iOS is currently tightly integrated with the Apple Music service, and Apple enthusiastically advertises the service in OS (much to my dismay since I think ads do not belong in OS onboarding, notifications, or preferences.) Apple actually got rid of iTunes on macOS and replaced it with the (rather awful, imho) macOS incarnation of the Music app from iOS. As I understand it, the iTunes Store didn't arrive until 2003, although iTunes could rip CDs beforehand and the Rip/Mix/Burn ad campaign was from 2001.

by cnasc 5y ago

musicale 5y ago

Regarding the comic: 1. The Zune is a better deal unless you live for 200 years or plan to bequeath the music files to your descendants. 2. Apple Music is now a subscription service. 3. Steve Jobs knew everyone circa 2000 had a stash of unlicensed MP3 files that they paid $0 for but needed a handy way to play on the go. Nonetheless I agree with you - not because subscriptions are necessarily a bad value in terms of money (though they often are) but because managing dozens of subscriptions takes time and attention that I'd rather not spend, and the feeling that money is continuously draining out of my wallet just to keep some lousy app working is unpleasant.

marcellus23 5y ago
“Apple Music is now a subscription service” Apple Music was always a subscription service, that’s what Apple Music launched as. The iTunes Store is still around and works the same as always, and the app still lets you rip CDs and sync those. Apple Music hasn’t replaced anything. Moreover, the iPod was a very popular device from 2001 for a decade or more. I think you’re overestimating how much of people’s music collections came from Napster rather than CDs and the iTunes Store.
- musicale 5y ago
  Yes, that is indeed correct – and the "now" is technically correct as well, if perhaps redundant (and you can probably understand what I was getting at.) But let me elaborate a bit, since I think you will appreciate it: Apple's Music app on iOS is currently tightly integrated with the Apple Music service, and Apple enthusiastically advertises the service in OS (much to my dismay since I think ads do not belong in OS onboarding, notifications, or preferences.) Apple actually got rid of iTunes on macOS and replaced it with the (rather awful, imho) macOS incarnation of the Music app from iOS. As I understand it, the iTunes Store didn't arrive until 2003, although iTunes could rip CDs beforehand and the Rip/Mix/Burn ad campaign was from 2001.