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If executing people fits with your conception of liberty I think we have very different understandings of liberty, and what "morally questionable" means.

notch656a 5y ago
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  Hey man, bullets are pretty cheap.
rubyist5eva 5y ago
I have no objection whatsoever with executing people that torture our most vulnerable for sexual gratification. Liberty means the freedom to do what is right. Child exploitation isn’t even in an adjacent universe to that.
- worik 5y ago
  > I have no objection whatsoever with executing people that torture our most vulnerable for sexual gratification. I have a problem with you executing people. There are plenty of hypothetical people whom we could agree deserve execution. The problem is: Who has the power? What else will they do with it? If the subjects of that power are kept alive then there is a chance to "put right" injustices, if not then not. That is the problem with execution as a "tool of justice"
- unclebucknasty 5y ago
  >I have no objection whatsoever with executing people that... >Liberty means the freedom to do what is right. I understand the sentiment, but you do see how those two statements together are problematic?
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    No. For the same reason that using deadly force to defend yourself from an attacker is justified and also “right”. Of course you would cut off the second part of the sentence where I specifically reference people committing one of the most heinous crimes in order to make your “gotcha”. Perhaps trying to imply that I am not opposed to any and all uses of capital punishment when I am talking about a very specific crime. Frankly a pretty lazy attempt at building a straw man. Capital punishment should be reserved for the absolute worst among us. Exploiting children for sexual gratification is one of them. Child rapists get full due process at least.

notch656a 5y ago

rubyist5eva 5y ago
Hey man, bullets are pretty cheap.

rubyist5eva 5y ago

I have no objection whatsoever with executing people that torture our most vulnerable for sexual gratification. Liberty means the freedom to do what is right. Child exploitation isn’t even in an adjacent universe to that.

worik 5y ago
> I have no objection whatsoever with executing people that torture our most vulnerable for sexual gratification. I have a problem with you executing people. There are plenty of hypothetical people whom we could agree deserve execution. The problem is: Who has the power? What else will they do with it? If the subjects of that power are kept alive then there is a chance to "put right" injustices, if not then not. That is the problem with execution as a "tool of justice"
unclebucknasty 5y ago
>I have no objection whatsoever with executing people that... >Liberty means the freedom to do what is right. I understand the sentiment, but you do see how those two statements together are problematic?
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  No. For the same reason that using deadly force to defend yourself from an attacker is justified and also “right”. Of course you would cut off the second part of the sentence where I specifically reference people committing one of the most heinous crimes in order to make your “gotcha”. Perhaps trying to imply that I am not opposed to any and all uses of capital punishment when I am talking about a very specific crime. Frankly a pretty lazy attempt at building a straw man. Capital punishment should be reserved for the absolute worst among us. Exploiting children for sexual gratification is one of them. Child rapists get full due process at least.