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I think most peoples' definition is clearly about "push-based" paid advertising, rather than "pull-based" marketing videos that they don't pay any platform to p

I think most peoples' definition is clearly about "push-based" paid advertising, rather than "pull-based" marketing videos that they don't pay any platform to promote. I for one, am grateful that a company is showing the power of organic marketing like that, as opposed to constantly having to see Doritos ads injected into my friends' Instagram stories on iOS. (jk, I only use desktop Firefox w/ uBlock now)

clouddrover 5y ago
> I think most peoples' definition is clearly about "push-based" paid advertising That's got nothing to do with it. All that's going on here is that people have bought into a false narrative that Tesla doesn't do advertising. And instead of recognizing it as false they desperately defend the falsehood to avoid feeling foolish. Making the claim that something which is plainly an ad is not an ad by way of silly semantics is farcical.
- revscat 5y ago
  Not an ad.
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    To help you, here are some dictionary definitions of "advertisement". Oxford (https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/advertisement https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/advertisement): "A notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy." Merriam Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advertisement https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advertisement): "a public notice, especially: one published in the press or broadcast over the air" Collins (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/advertisement https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/adverti...): "An advertisement is an announcement online, or in a newspaper, on television, or on a poster about something such as a product, event, or job." Cambridge (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/advertisement https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/advertis...): "a picture, short film, song, etc. that tries to persuade people to buy a product or service, or a piece of text that tells people about a job, etc." You've naively bought into a lie that Tesla has told you but that doesn't mean you need to keep repeating that lie.
    - revscat 5y ago
      You’re the one obsessed with a word. Tesla markets. They have marketing. They made marketing videos. They do not advertise. They do not have commercials, or buy ad space in newspapers or magazines, buy space on billboards, or banner ads, use Facebook’s targeted ad campaigns, or any other form of advertising. This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. Those are two different things. You can die on that hill if you want to, but it’s fucking weird. Tesla makes some people go completely batshit insane, and I do not get it. At all.
      - clouddrover 5y ago
        > or any other form of advertising You poor thing. Informercial: https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-advertising/ https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-adver... Informercial: https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elon-musk-cult-gigafactory-cybertruck-model-y-electric-vehicles https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elo... Informercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM A really, deeply cynical ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 > This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. You sweet summer child.
        revscat 5y ago
        > You sweet summer child. Suck my fat hog, cunt. None of those are ads. They are promotional marketing. I’m sorry you are so possessed by this need to hate and ridicule, but Tesla doesn’t advertise. That does not mean they do not promote their product. But — and here is what you are too willfully stupid to understand — advertising and marketing are not the same thing. Post all the YouTube links you want. Unless one of those is an ad that shows up before other videos on YT, it’s not an ad. It’s promotional marketing. Cunt.

clouddrover 5y ago

> I think most peoples' definition is clearly about "push-based" paid advertising That's got nothing to do with it. All that's going on here is that people have bought into a false narrative that Tesla doesn't do advertising. And instead of recognizing it as false they desperately defend the falsehood to avoid feeling foolish. Making the claim that something which is plainly an ad is not an ad by way of silly semantics is farcical.

revscat 5y ago
Not an ad.
- clouddrover 5y ago
  To help you, here are some dictionary definitions of "advertisement". Oxford (https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/advertisement https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/advertisement): "A notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy." Merriam Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advertisement https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advertisement): "a public notice, especially: one published in the press or broadcast over the air" Collins (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/advertisement https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/adverti...): "An advertisement is an announcement online, or in a newspaper, on television, or on a poster about something such as a product, event, or job." Cambridge (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/advertisement https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/advertis...): "a picture, short film, song, etc. that tries to persuade people to buy a product or service, or a piece of text that tells people about a job, etc." You've naively bought into a lie that Tesla has told you but that doesn't mean you need to keep repeating that lie.
  - revscat 5y ago
    You’re the one obsessed with a word. Tesla markets. They have marketing. They made marketing videos. They do not advertise. They do not have commercials, or buy ad space in newspapers or magazines, buy space on billboards, or banner ads, use Facebook’s targeted ad campaigns, or any other form of advertising. This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. Those are two different things. You can die on that hill if you want to, but it’s fucking weird. Tesla makes some people go completely batshit insane, and I do not get it. At all.
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      > or any other form of advertising You poor thing. Informercial: https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-advertising/ https://electrek.co/2020/04/30/tesla-influencer-stream-adver... Informercial: https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elon-musk-cult-gigafactory-cybertruck-model-y-electric-vehicles https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tesla-cyber-rodeo-rabid-elo... Informercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUmkbzQ-BS0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bq4Gp4-IBg Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz394aKhfLY Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorrbelUSIE Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIehAaVTmR0 Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZQe1s2ScM A really, deeply cynical ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZbDg24dfN0 > This video is promotional marketing. It is not advertising. You sweet summer child.
      - revscat 5y ago
        > You sweet summer child. Suck my fat hog, cunt. None of those are ads. They are promotional marketing. I’m sorry you are so possessed by this need to hate and ridicule, but Tesla doesn’t advertise. That does not mean they do not promote their product. But — and here is what you are too willfully stupid to understand — advertising and marketing are not the same thing. Post all the YouTube links you want. Unless one of those is an ad that shows up before other videos on YT, it’s not an ad. It’s promotional marketing. Cunt.