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I have been to 3 Toyota factories and 1 Citroen. The process shown in the video is very similar. Tesla factory looks a bit slow, I guess because it’s new. Man
by DanielSantos 4y ago
I have been to 3 Toyota factories and 1 Citroen. The process shown in the video is very similar.
Tesla factory looks a bit slow, I guess because it’s new.
Many steps are missing, like assembling doors/ hood before oaint shop.
Interiors assembly also missing. I assume these are the more proprietary things from Tesla. What they showed are the common processes/tools across many manufacturers.
They had too many cars parked inside the factory, normally that means defects that need to be fixed.
- tomatotomato37 4y agoI think the Tesla machinery may be running slower during filming to allow for some of the trick drone shots, else they catch it on something and damage a $200k press
- greggsy 4y agoI think you need to multiply the price of the press by 10, but repairs and downtime might on ticket
- SEJeff 4y agoHerbert Deiss, the CEO of Volkswagen, recently lamented that a Model 3 is made by Tesla start to finish in approximately ten hours when an equivalent VW EV is made in a touch over thirty hours. The biggest producing automotive factory in the world is the famed VW Wolfsburg factory.
- 0des 4y agoI know teslas are valued here, however, they're very inconsistent in quality. Though I'd never buy a VW I do respect that their craftsmanship surpasses that 30hr mark. Tesla is very much a 10hr car. When I see body panels that don't line up in more than one place in more than one vehicle its not me being picky. Its a rushed product with inadequate standard for quality control.
- xeromal 4y agoI own a Tesla and my model S definitely has panel gaps, but it always surprises me how much people care. I feel like people complain because they became aware of the issue through the internet itself. Makes me wonder how many people would notice if someone didn't inform them that it was possible. As long as my car doesn't leak water and it drives straight, I'm a happy camper.
- 0des 4y agoIt is because it is a symptom. As an example: Nobody cares about clubbed fingernails either, but it can indicate something much worse.
- wincy 4y agoI was really concerned you were talking about the old wives tale that clubbed fingers meant you were more likely to be a criminal or something… but I googled it and apparently it correlates to having lung cancer? Interesting.
- genocidicbunny 4y agoCan be correlated to lung cancer, or heart disease.
- acomjean 4y agoWhen Lexus was a new brand in the 1990s the introductory ad was one showing Its refinement by having a ball bearing roll across the panel seams. It won some awards and is credited with pushing manufactures to better tolerances. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_Bearing_(advertisement) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_Bearing_(advertisement)
- rudedogg 4y agoThe commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AktHnnA9QIM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AktHnnA9QIM
- jml7c5 4y agoI'm surprised that's a concern. I would have thought latency is almost irrelevant, unless it affects throughput. I suppose longer production time requires more floor space?
- SEJeff 4y agoI think it is more they can make the same number of vehicles in a smaller space, thereby doing it faster and more profitably. Tesla's gross margin (profit per car essentially) is 10-15% higher than most all of the rest of the industry. He is pointing out that doing it better makes them more competitive. Currently, the Volkswagen Wolfsburg Plant is the biggest automotive factory in the world by number of vehicles produced by a single factory. That number is 815,000 vehicles per year. The tesla factories that are currently built are in theory capable of 1 million vehicles per factory apiece, but are not there yet. If tesla can out-manufacturer VW, obviously they'll be more likely to sell more vehicles, and further erode VW's business.
- thesumofall 4y agoThis seems a meaningless comparison unless we know what is actually done in these factories vs what is sourced. Diess is known for pushing his staff by doing all sorts of benchmarks
- rr808 4y ago> Herbert Deiss, the CEO of Volkswagen, recently lamented that a Model 3 is made by Tesla start to finish in approximately ten hours when an equivalent VW EV is made in a touch over thirty hours. Nobody really cares about this. Esp if Tesla build quality is poor and VW is great I'd think the fast build is doing them no favors.
- SEJeff 4y agoThe reason this matters is that they make more cars in less time so they make more money. The build quality hype is pretty overrated IMO. Tesla build quality is actually pretty good now.
- rr808 4y agoHow does that allow them to make more money? I can see the factory could be a little smaller?
- kwhitefoot 4y agoNobody who buys one cares. The people who make them care because spending 20 hour more time means spending a lot more money for the same return.