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No it doesn't, those sites could very easily still be stupid, boring, wrong, offensive, dishonest, or otherwise time-wasting. I don't see how the presence or ab
by throwaway82652 5y ago
No it doesn't, those sites could very easily still be stupid, boring, wrong, offensive, dishonest, or otherwise time-wasting. I don't see how the presence or absence of Javascript has any effect on the content which is what you actually care about.
Unless of course, you are like some Hacker News commenters and you seemingly only use the internet to complain about Javascript, in which case that appears to be a circular and self-fulfilling requirement you've created for yourself.
- neurotrace 5y agoIf JS had no effect on the experience of the page (or the loading of it) then no one would write it. Personally, I don't generally mind running a bunch of JS but I understand why people don't. I use both the modern web and Gemini
- throwaway82652 5y agoI do too which is why I said just turn off javascript. You can try to compare this to running gopher but if you ask me the end user experience is the same. John wants to visit a website of a business. John likes having Javascript turned off. John visits the website with Javascript turned off. The website requires Javascript. John finds the website doesn't work and gives up. John wants to visit a website of a business. John likes Gopher. John visits the website with a Gopher browser. The website requires HTTP. John finds the website doesn't work and gives up.
- enneff 5y agoYou can’t visit a web site with a gopher browser. The scenario you describe doesn’t make sense.
- throwaway82652 5y agoSorry that was a typo, thanks for catching it. Please re-read my comment replacing that phrase with just "site" and it should make sense to you. If you find it still doesn't make sense, then don't hesitate to ask for more information. I'm sure it can be explained to you, in time.
- caslon 5y agoJohn wants to read a blog over HTTP. John reads the blog. There is a link. It is to a social media website. He clicks on the link. The social media website requires JavaScript. John has no context for the blog he was reading, and is saddened by the fact that his experience has been ruined. John wants to read a blog over Gopher. John reads the blog. There is a reference to another piece of content. It is either made to work with the form or is self-contained, so as to be usable in the context of a Gopher browser. John is happy. A platform's total capabilities matter, because there will be links to the edges of its capabilities. If you have a blog over Gopher, you probably aren't going to link to a JavaScript-heavy site, because an author posting over Gopher is more likely to be ideologically-opposed to JavaScript. If you have a blog over HTTP, you probably are. A platform's intentions matter.
- throwaway82652 5y ago>A platform's total capabilities matter, because there will be links to the edges of its capabilities. If you have a blog over Gopher, you probably aren't going to link to a JavaScript-heavy site, because an author posting over Gopher is more likely to be ideologically-opposed to JavaScript. If you have a blog over HTTP, you probably are. No I don't agree. If you have a HTTP blog where you go on tirades about how Javascript is bad, you probably won't post links to web sites that use Javascript either. I've seen people who actually do this. It's the same thing, there's no value added by using another platform which has nothing to do with it. You know you can also put HTTP links in a gopher site, and vice versa? They're just text. Either way you have no way of knowing what kind of links the blogger will share until you actually read the blog. What you're more concerned about is actually the intention and motives of the blog operator, not the platform. If you believe Gopher is good at being an indicator of that because by this point it's become very insular and self-contained and all the users are bitter about outside things, I've also seen HTTP blog communities that are that way too. Gopher sites are not the only places where you can find blog rings. Hope that's helpful to your activities.
- caslon 5y agoYou're deliberately applying the least intelligent light you can to everyone in this thread's comments. With Gopher, you don't have to worry about whether someone is ideologically-opposed to JavaScript, and you don't have to only read the works of people who write about being ideologically opposed to JavaScript. Your solution isn't a solution at all.
- lal 5y agoWhy would John attempt to load a website in a Gopher client? I'm not certain you understand what Gopher is.
- throwaway82652 5y agoThat's a typo, please see my comment below. Thanks. Make sure to read the full context before making assumptions, it will save you some time.