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The style of reporting is debatable, but the embedded audio clip really conveys how distressed the crew was. That, and the audible huffing and puffing while the

The style of reporting is debatable, but the embedded audio clip really conveys how distressed the crew was. That, and the audible huffing and puffing while they were probably wrestling with the controls. I hope they get good data and successfully get to the root cause.

traceroute66 5y ago
> the audible huffing and puffing while they were probably wrestling with the controls The 777 is fly-by-wire. Therefore most likely the huffing and puffing is from all the rapid movements around the cockpit to reach various knobs, dials and circuit-breakers. Also I should point out, you should pay ZERO attention to the radio coverage in these instances. If you train to be a pilot, from day one a certain order is knocked into your thick skull: AVIATE - NAVIGATE - COMMUNICATE ..... ALWAYS IN THAT ORDER (i.e. saftey and navigation of the aircraft comes before you even think about coherent communications to the outside world). Don't get me wrong, I'm not dismissing the potential nature of the incident, far from it. But given the swiftness of the recovery, its obvious they were proceeding through the appropriate steps as per training, so I think we can safely avoid all the un-necessary adjectives and hype beyond acknowledging the well-trained crew doing the job they trained and regularly refresh for. N.B. I'm 100% giving the crew the benefit of the doubt here. For those who like an "alternative", I have heard little birdies in various places that given the background alarm audio, there MIGHT be an alternative story of the crew having setup the approach wrong (i.e human rather than aircraft error). But its a long-shot guess from what I hear and therefore we should really just wait for the official report to be published.
- gruturo 5y ago
  I know about the pilot priorities, I took flight lessons. Only a few so far, but, as you point out, that's really a day 1 thing :) Either way, my point stands. That sounded like one distressed crew. They didn't panic and lose it, hats off to them, and likely the good training and experience helped there, but the edge in their voices gives you a distinct feeling of how serious things must have been.

traceroute66 5y ago

> the audible huffing and puffing while they were probably wrestling with the controls The 777 is fly-by-wire. Therefore most likely the huffing and puffing is from all the rapid movements around the cockpit to reach various knobs, dials and circuit-breakers. Also I should point out, you should pay ZERO attention to the radio coverage in these instances. If you train to be a pilot, from day one a certain order is knocked into your thick skull: AVIATE - NAVIGATE - COMMUNICATE ..... ALWAYS IN THAT ORDER (i.e. saftey and navigation of the aircraft comes before you even think about coherent communications to the outside world). Don't get me wrong, I'm not dismissing the potential nature of the incident, far from it. But given the swiftness of the recovery, its obvious they were proceeding through the appropriate steps as per training, so I think we can safely avoid all the un-necessary adjectives and hype beyond acknowledging the well-trained crew doing the job they trained and regularly refresh for. N.B. I'm 100% giving the crew the benefit of the doubt here. For those who like an "alternative", I have heard little birdies in various places that given the background alarm audio, there MIGHT be an alternative story of the crew having setup the approach wrong (i.e human rather than aircraft error). But its a long-shot guess from what I hear and therefore we should really just wait for the official report to be published.

gruturo 5y ago
I know about the pilot priorities, I took flight lessons. Only a few so far, but, as you point out, that's really a day 1 thing :) Either way, my point stands. That sounded like one distressed crew. They didn't panic and lose it, hats off to them, and likely the good training and experience helped there, but the edge in their voices gives you a distinct feeling of how serious things must have been.