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What is your definition of 'comeback'? According to mine, gopher already 'came back' and is providing a whole lot of people a nice escape from the javascript fu

• throwaway82652 5y ago
  That doesn't make any sense. Javascript is not required to use HTTP. You can just turn off Javascript in any web browser, it's not a reason to switch to another protocol.
  • Macha 5y ago
    The other protocol buys you a guarantee that the sites available on it are designed for your use case, rather than trying to chop stuff designed for the web to fit into your subset with mixed success.
    • throwaway82652 5y ago
      No it doesn't, those sites could very easily still be stupid, boring, wrong, offensive, dishonest, or otherwise time-wasting. I don't see how the presence or absence of Javascript has any effect on the content which is what you actually care about. Unless of course, you are like some Hacker News commenters and you seemingly only use the internet to complain about Javascript, in which case that appears to be a circular and self-fulfilling requirement you've created for yourself.
      • neurotrace 5y ago
        If JS had no effect on the experience of the page (or the loading of it) then no one would write it. Personally, I don't generally mind running a bunch of JS but I understand why people don't. I use both the modern web and Gemini
        • throwaway82652 5y ago
          I do too which is why I said just turn off javascript. You can try to compare this to running gopher but if you ask me the end user experience is the same. John wants to visit a website of a business. John likes having Javascript turned off. John visits the website with Javascript turned off. The website requires Javascript. John finds the website doesn't work and gives up. John wants to visit a website of a business. John likes Gopher. John visits the website with a Gopher browser. The website requires HTTP. John finds the website doesn't work and gives up.
          • enneff 5y ago
            You can’t visit a web site with a gopher browser. The scenario you describe doesn’t make sense.
            • throwaway82652 5y ago
              Sorry that was a typo, thanks for catching it. Please re-read my comment replacing that phrase with just "site" and it should make sense to you. If you find it still doesn't make sense, then don't hesitate to ask for more information. I'm sure it can be explained to you, in time.
          • caslon 5y ago
            John wants to read a blog over HTTP. John reads the blog. There is a link. It is to a social media website. He clicks on the link. The social media website requires JavaScript. John has no context for the blog he was reading, and is saddened by the fact that his experience has been ruined. John wants to read a blog over Gopher. John reads the blog. There is a reference to another piece of content. It is either made to work with the form or is self-contained, so as to be usable in the context of a Gopher browser. John is happy. A platform's total capabilities matter, because there will be links to the edges of its capabilities. If you have a blog over Gopher, you probably aren't going to link to a JavaScript-heavy site, because an author posting over Gopher is more likely to be ideologically-opposed to JavaScript. If you have a blog over HTTP, you probably are. A platform's intentions matter.