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Would be surprised if you would still be using that server actively after 10 years. I wonder how you build such a hardware with just $2k (3990x alone seems to

Would be surprised if you would still be using that server actively after 10 years. I wonder how you build such a hardware with just $2k (3990x alone seems to cost $3.5k), but with €94/mon you can get 16C32T, 128Gb, 8TB server from Hetzner[1]. It has Zen 3 5950X which has better single core performance than your 64 core assuming that you refer to 3990X, and often single core perf is more important than total perf because you don't use all cores all the time. I estimate such a configuration to be $2.5k. With $2.5k you can keep the server for 2 years, with network and electricity provided by Hetzner. Also you can terminate it and rent another, better server at any time. [1]: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax

zwayhowder 5y ago
Most things don't need that much power. My homelab, NextCloud and family Plex server is a 10 year old i7 with 32gb ram. The only upgrade in 10 years was a PCIe NVME adapter so I could boot from faster storage.
perrygeo 5y ago
2 years in, it's working fine and already paid for itself. I hope it makes it 10 years. Why do you think it won't?
jjav 5y ago
> Would be surprised if you would still be using that server actively after 10 years. I thank the death of Moore's Law. Compute power obsoletes very slowly these days. Back in the 90s I was buying new equipment every year or two. My primary hobby server is now 12 years old and going strong. My youngest server is 8 years old. Every now and then I start shopping for an upgrade but eventually decide I'll spend the money later. It's still good enough for my needs and works well.
marginalia_nu 5y ago
My search engine is self-hosted off hardware with those rough storage specs (well, sans ECC). I do not regret one bit going for this set-up, although my next step toward scaling this up is indeed going to be some sort of hosted solution, the primary reason being the BTUs and decibels involved in running an actual server from my apartment. Running a search engine or not, anyone with a serious interest in programming should have a server. I really can't recommend it enough. The ability to run large jobs that chew through hundreds of gigabytes of data for weeks if need be, without considering the cost, that dramatically increases the level of ambition you can have in your projects. * I had an idea for a re-skinned wikipedia. So I processed all 40 gigabytes of wikipedia articles from an OpenZIM file. Took a week. No big deal. Later I used the same corpus to calculate language data models. That's another several days. * I had an idea a while back. It required me to screengrab 500,000 websites. So I wrote a python script. Takes anywhere between 0.5-120 seconds per site. It's still not finished by any stretch, but I'm up to about 322,000 screenshots now. It's just great.

zwayhowder 5y ago

Most things don't need that much power. My homelab, NextCloud and family Plex server is a 10 year old i7 with 32gb ram. The only upgrade in 10 years was a PCIe NVME adapter so I could boot from faster storage.

perrygeo 5y ago

2 years in, it's working fine and already paid for itself. I hope it makes it 10 years. Why do you think it won't?

jjav 5y ago

> Would be surprised if you would still be using that server actively after 10 years. I thank the death of Moore's Law. Compute power obsoletes very slowly these days. Back in the 90s I was buying new equipment every year or two. My primary hobby server is now 12 years old and going strong. My youngest server is 8 years old. Every now and then I start shopping for an upgrade but eventually decide I'll spend the money later. It's still good enough for my needs and works well.

marginalia_nu 5y ago

My search engine is self-hosted off hardware with those rough storage specs (well, sans ECC). I do not regret one bit going for this set-up, although my next step toward scaling this up is indeed going to be some sort of hosted solution, the primary reason being the BTUs and decibels involved in running an actual server from my apartment. Running a search engine or not, anyone with a serious interest in programming should have a server. I really can't recommend it enough. The ability to run large jobs that chew through hundreds of gigabytes of data for weeks if need be, without considering the cost, that dramatically increases the level of ambition you can have in your projects. * I had an idea for a re-skinned wikipedia. So I processed all 40 gigabytes of wikipedia articles from an OpenZIM file. Took a week. No big deal. Later I used the same corpus to calculate language data models. That's another several days. * I had an idea a while back. It required me to screengrab 500,000 websites. So I wrote a python script. Takes anywhere between 0.5-120 seconds per site. It's still not finished by any stretch, but I'm up to about 322,000 screenshots now. It's just great.