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For current phones I think 5 years is a good support window, the batteries don't last much longer than that. But if replaceable batteries make a comeback (and I

For current phones I think 5 years is a good support window, the batteries don't last much longer than that. But if replaceable batteries make a comeback (and I hope they do with the push from the EU), then I definitely agree that more like 10 years should be demanded as reasonable. Especially for something like Android where if you compare a flagship from 5-7 years ago with a brand new Android Go phone the level of performance & feature set is not really that different. So it's not like the OS gets to actually start expecting things like a high end Vulkan capable GPU & neural net accelerators or anything. It still has to work with what is essentially old hardware anyway just in a brand new body.

saidinesh5 5y ago
Batteries and flash storage too wears off on modern day phones imo. So anything beyond 5 years is asking for a lot on a typical smartphone where people share lots of memes and videos everyday.
- nielsole 5y ago
  Replacing flash chips is probably not beyond the local repair shops capabilities.
shard 5y ago
I gave my tween kid a Galaxy S8 (released 2017) recently and it suites her needs fine. I'd prefer if I don't have to upgrade her phone for another 2-3 years. I'm having trouble finding an Android Go phone released this year, the most recent I can find are from 2020, like the Nokia 1.3. Compared with the Galaxy S8, the Nokia has a lower rez camera, less RAM, lower quality build, lower quality display, lower spec SoC, no biometrics, and no fast charge. Perhaps there are higher spec'd Android Go phones, but at least a 3-year-gap is not enough to overcome the premium-vs-entry-phone tier difference.
Wowfunhappy 5y ago
I’ve had a shop replace the battery in my iPhone 6S three times, for ~$50 each time. The batteries aren’t user replaceable, but they are absolutely replaceable.
- zerof1l 5y ago
  More accurately, the batteries are replaceable, it's just that Apple designed the phone and battery in such a way that replacing it for a regular consumer is too much. You can still replace it yourself, but then you can void your warranty.
  - GeekyBear 5y ago
    >Apple designed the phone and battery in such a way that replacing it for a regular consumer is too much It's pretty easy to find videos showing you how to replace those batteries. >Jerry Rig Everything: iPhone 6S Battery Replacement in 3 minutes (Easy Method) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBQO1-kQTQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBQO1-kQTQ

saidinesh5 5y ago

Batteries and flash storage too wears off on modern day phones imo. So anything beyond 5 years is asking for a lot on a typical smartphone where people share lots of memes and videos everyday.

nielsole 5y ago
Replacing flash chips is probably not beyond the local repair shops capabilities.

shard 5y ago

I gave my tween kid a Galaxy S8 (released 2017) recently and it suites her needs fine. I'd prefer if I don't have to upgrade her phone for another 2-3 years. I'm having trouble finding an Android Go phone released this year, the most recent I can find are from 2020, like the Nokia 1.3. Compared with the Galaxy S8, the Nokia has a lower rez camera, less RAM, lower quality build, lower quality display, lower spec SoC, no biometrics, and no fast charge. Perhaps there are higher spec'd Android Go phones, but at least a 3-year-gap is not enough to overcome the premium-vs-entry-phone tier difference.

Wowfunhappy 5y ago

I’ve had a shop replace the battery in my iPhone 6S three times, for ~$50 each time. The batteries aren’t user replaceable, but they are absolutely replaceable.

zerof1l 5y ago
More accurately, the batteries are replaceable, it's just that Apple designed the phone and battery in such a way that replacing it for a regular consumer is too much. You can still replace it yourself, but then you can void your warranty.
- GeekyBear 5y ago
  >Apple designed the phone and battery in such a way that replacing it for a regular consumer is too much It's pretty easy to find videos showing you how to replace those batteries. >Jerry Rig Everything: iPhone 6S Battery Replacement in 3 minutes (Easy Method) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBQO1-kQTQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBQO1-kQTQ