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can you share a link to these images?

sgt101 5y ago
from :https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-card.md https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-c... https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_a_builder.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo... https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_a_flight_attendant.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo...
- sgt101 5y ago
  and https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_nurse.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo...
- kingcharles 5y ago
  As someone who works in CG and has a strong interest in AI for almost 40 years, I have to say the examples you gave give me the opposite impression. I think they're fantastic, other than what the developers highlight - that they are racially-biased due to the input sources. But from an image=generation perspective, I'm blown away. A couple of these lawyer images have issues (one is holding a book hilariously called "LAWER"): https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_lawyer.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo...
  - sgt101 5y ago
    Oh sure the technical outcome is great, but this kind of output (ie. hugely gender biased) is extremely problematic. Saying "oh the input screwed it" is very very naughty. This kind of tool will be used. If it's used it will do damage becuase it's damaging as it is.
    - oh_sigh 5y ago
      If you ask for a nurse as an example, and 85% of nurses are female, shouldn't you expect it to give you a female?
      - 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
        If you ask for a nurse and 85% are female, but 95% of the nurse images online are female, what distribution do you want it to return? “What do you expect it to do” is a worse question than “What do you want it to do?” It’s a problem is that right now there’s only one option (reflect the training set with a bias towards the most common cases).
      - karpierz 5y ago
        It depends on whether you want it to show what someone would expect a nurse to look like, or show what a nurse. Nothing in the definition of a nurse implies female. If you ask for a female US president, should the application simply return a black screen? If you ask for a black US president, would you expect it to only ever return pictures of Barack Obama?
        Rerarom 5y ago
        Well, nurse ends in an e, which is usually a feminine ending.
        na85 5y ago
        Not really in English. Uncle, Prince, Sire, and Duke come immediately to mind. Most of their feminine cognates end in consonants.
        oh_sigh 5y ago
        I agree nothing in the definition of nurse implies female, but something in our culture definitely has "nurse -> female". Likewise, nothing in "college student" definitionally implies age, but I wouldn't consider it a success if my system displayed a picture of a 9 year old.
- drcongo 5y ago
  That page is far more interesting than the article, thanks.
- dwighttk 5y ago
  Those look okay as long as I open them on my phone, don’t zoom in, and don’t look at any square, but just sort of take them all in at once. Focusing on one reveals they are pretty uncanny.
- GrantZvolsky 5y ago
  The model is deliberately limited in its ability to generate images of people.

from :https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-card.md https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-c... https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_a_builder.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo... https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_a_flight_attendant.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo...

sgt101 5y ago
and https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_nurse.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo...
kingcharles 5y ago
As someone who works in CG and has a strong interest in AI for almost 40 years, I have to say the examples you gave give me the opposite impression. I think they're fantastic, other than what the developers highlight - that they are racially-biased due to the input sources. But from an image=generation perspective, I'm blown away. A couple of these lawyer images have issues (one is holding a book hilariously called "LAWER"): https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Model2_lawyer.png https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/raw/main/assets/Mo...
- sgt101 5y ago
  Oh sure the technical outcome is great, but this kind of output (ie. hugely gender biased) is extremely problematic. Saying "oh the input screwed it" is very very naughty. This kind of tool will be used. If it's used it will do damage becuase it's damaging as it is.
  - oh_sigh 5y ago
    If you ask for a nurse as an example, and 85% of nurses are female, shouldn't you expect it to give you a female?
    - 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
      If you ask for a nurse and 85% are female, but 95% of the nurse images online are female, what distribution do you want it to return? “What do you expect it to do” is a worse question than “What do you want it to do?” It’s a problem is that right now there’s only one option (reflect the training set with a bias towards the most common cases).
    - karpierz 5y ago
      It depends on whether you want it to show what someone would expect a nurse to look like, or show what a nurse. Nothing in the definition of a nurse implies female. If you ask for a female US president, should the application simply return a black screen? If you ask for a black US president, would you expect it to only ever return pictures of Barack Obama?
      - Rerarom 5y ago
        Well, nurse ends in an e, which is usually a feminine ending.
        na85 5y ago
        Not really in English. Uncle, Prince, Sire, and Duke come immediately to mind. Most of their feminine cognates end in consonants.
      - oh_sigh 5y ago
        I agree nothing in the definition of nurse implies female, but something in our culture definitely has "nurse -> female". Likewise, nothing in "college student" definitionally implies age, but I wouldn't consider it a success if my system displayed a picture of a 9 year old.
drcongo 5y ago
That page is far more interesting than the article, thanks.
dwighttk 5y ago
Those look okay as long as I open them on my phone, don’t zoom in, and don’t look at any square, but just sort of take them all in at once. Focusing on one reveals they are pretty uncanny.
GrantZvolsky 5y ago
The model is deliberately limited in its ability to generate images of people.