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I don't get this, especially on a website like HN where so many of us build software where the marginal cost approaches zero. It isn't about the cost of implem

by dlp211 5y ago

I don't get this, especially on a website like HN where so many of us build software where the marginal cost approaches zero. It isn't about the cost of implementation, it is about the value added. If you don't want Atmos, don't pay for it. There are plenty of high quality sound systems that don't have Atmos compat.

nebula8804 5y ago
I was referring more to Cinema(although it applies to home market as well). I want to pay for the best experience and I think a lot of people are expecting the very best when they pay $20+ for a Dolby "Premium" experience. If they don't know any better, then they think it is best money can buy. Furthermore, if there was an option for these others in the market that a consumer could easily buy then I would understand your line of reasoning but most movies are authored with Atmos and so you must buy that system if you want to take advantage of the additional content offered on your favorite movie disc. It would be nice if the film was offered in multiple formats(even on the same disc). You would think that if all this additional money would be spent, then you might as well ensure it is the very best experience. Instead as the author shows, they are still cutting corners despite charging this price. It is a scam they pull in multiple markets.
- dlp211 5y ago
  I don't think the vast majority of movie goers are able to tell the difference between Atmos and DTS:X. It's almost certainly a case of the marginal value of going from Atmos to DTS:X doesn't make it worth the cost of going from one format to another. Consider also if there was a difference between the audio master technique for Cinema and Home, it just would increase the cost further. Atmos is pretty good, far better than what was previously readily available.
  - nebula8804 5y ago
    We had 70mm IMAX which got dropped to Imax Digital(LieMax) and now dropped to Atmos(It is debatable which is better). If they were capable of delivering a certain level of quality and cannot anymore either the value of the dollar has fallen so much that they cannot provide the same quality for the same price(possible) or they are cutting corners somewhere. It is probably a mixture of both. >I don't think the vast majority of movie goers are able to tell the difference between Atmos and DTS:X. It does not matter, they are advertising this medium as the best possible movie going experience and charging premium prices reflecting this claim. The fact that it is not worth it to "them" to provide the best experience is a result of them deciding that they want a specific profit margin and will fit as much as they can within that margin.

by dlp211 5y ago

nebula8804 5y ago

I was referring more to Cinema(although it applies to home market as well). I want to pay for the best experience and I think a lot of people are expecting the very best when they pay $20+ for a Dolby "Premium" experience. If they don't know any better, then they think it is best money can buy. Furthermore, if there was an option for these others in the market that a consumer could easily buy then I would understand your line of reasoning but most movies are authored with Atmos and so you must buy that system if you want to take advantage of the additional content offered on your favorite movie disc. It would be nice if the film was offered in multiple formats(even on the same disc). You would think that if all this additional money would be spent, then you might as well ensure it is the very best experience. Instead as the author shows, they are still cutting corners despite charging this price. It is a scam they pull in multiple markets.

dlp211 5y ago
I don't think the vast majority of movie goers are able to tell the difference between Atmos and DTS:X. It's almost certainly a case of the marginal value of going from Atmos to DTS:X doesn't make it worth the cost of going from one format to another. Consider also if there was a difference between the audio master technique for Cinema and Home, it just would increase the cost further. Atmos is pretty good, far better than what was previously readily available.
- nebula8804 5y ago
  We had 70mm IMAX which got dropped to Imax Digital(LieMax) and now dropped to Atmos(It is debatable which is better). If they were capable of delivering a certain level of quality and cannot anymore either the value of the dollar has fallen so much that they cannot provide the same quality for the same price(possible) or they are cutting corners somewhere. It is probably a mixture of both. >I don't think the vast majority of movie goers are able to tell the difference between Atmos and DTS:X. It does not matter, they are advertising this medium as the best possible movie going experience and charging premium prices reflecting this claim. The fact that it is not worth it to "them" to provide the best experience is a result of them deciding that they want a specific profit margin and will fit as much as they can within that margin.