Agreed. Which is why I don't think 5% is that bad. It's barely above the average rate between the GFC and the pandemic (~4.25%). But inflation is much, much

Agreed. Which is why I don't think 5% is that bad. It's barely above the average rate between the GFC and the pandemic (~4.25%). But inflation is much, much higher. The nominal rate should be important right now. The nominal rate in the before times was like 4% interest - 1-2% inflation. Now the nominal rate is 5% with 7-12% inflation. Normal people are absolutely going to start factoring inflation into the equation. Especially if inflation continues to drive wage growth.