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Was Bluray technologically superior and more expensive? It wasn't really superior, in some ways it was better (more capacity per layer) but then lost out by us
by StillBored 5y ago
Was Bluray technologically superior and more expensive?
It wasn't really superior, in some ways it was better (more capacity per layer) but then lost out by using less efficient codec's, and requiring a significantly more powerful processor to run java rather than having a custom scripting/overlay function while lacking various features (like networking). Much of what HD-DVD had out of the box didn't manage to make it into the bluray specs until a couple years later (revision 2.0 IIRC https://www.cnet.com/culture/blu-ray-profile-1-0-1-1-2-0-explained-ask-the-editors/ https://www.cnet.com/culture/blu-ray-profile-1-0-1-1-2-0-exp...).
Some things never made it, like the fact that HD-DVD was region free. The PS3 was a contributing factor but a minor one, In what basically was a studio fight over consumer friendliness (DRM, region locking, backwards compatibility with DVDs since they could be pressed on the backside, instant play requirements, etc), and which camp was willing to pay larger bribes to "win" before the dual mode players became the majority since the later hardware requirements for bluray made it basically capable of also playing HD-DVDs. Plus, streaming was becoming an ever more present topic.
To this day, the bluray experience tends to be worse than HD-DVD as so few blurays ever behaved like HD-DVD (universal iirc being the notable exception since they appear to have ported their HD-DVD interfaces to bluray for a while) when it comes to just playing the movie when the disk is inserted and overlaying menus over the movie as its playing.
- phonon 5y ago> but then lost out by using less efficient codec's They used the same codecs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high-definition_optical_disc_formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high-definition_...
- StillBored 5y agoNow they do, but originally all the blurays were mpeg2, it was part of the discussion around quality, and the vc1 codec was used on most HDDVDs vs MPEG2 on blurays nullifying the bitrate differences. IIRC of course, since i'm lazy.
- phonon 5y agoNo, you're wrong. The first blu-ray players had support for all those codecs. The first few mastered blu-ray discs were MPEG-2 encoded, but that was because the encoders were more mature at that point. https://www.avsforum.com/threads/sony-on-mpeg-2-for-blu-ray.690185/ https://www.avsforum.com/threads/sony-on-mpeg-2-for-blu-ray....
- WorldMaker 5y agoRe: Universal menus: they may have ported all their animations and the general look and feel, but there are some strong differences to how the menus functioned on HD-DVD. They animated smoothly on top of the video itself on HD-DVD and in Java they fake that on some movies and stopped trying altogether after a few years. (On some players it's very much the opposite of smooth, it has very clear hiccups and clipping artifacts.) Plus the loss of things like picture-in-picture special features that HD-DVD supported but Blu-Ray never did.