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Lovely game! I wonder if it might be a nicer UX if you could choose for the Shift key to be needed to slide circles around rather than to move the selection. I

by yboris 5y ago

Lovely game! I wonder if it might be a nicer UX if you could choose for the Shift key to be needed to slide circles around rather than to move the selection. In my mind, conceptually, arrow keys are for moving the selection, and tessellating objects "requires more work" so I'd expect Shift to be needed for that - not vice-versa.

Max-q 5y ago
I agree to this.
jsnell 5y ago
The most convenient way to play seems to be to use mouse for selection, keyboard for sliding. That would become pretty inconvenient if sliding required use of the shift key too.
- zamadatix 5y ago
  I'd rather drag with a mouse instead of have to click to set location then press keys to slide. As a bonus drag would also work for touch.
shubhamjain 5y ago
It was exactly the way you describe in the earlier prototype. But I changed it based on feedback. I guess there's no set of controls that can satisfy everyone. :) I do think you develop muscle memory for it pretty quick. Additionally, you can also use mouse, which can be convenient based on your preference.
- yboris 5y ago
  Oh I see! If you use the mouse to click around and arrow keys to move! Seems like a single toggle checkbox would be enough to satisfy everyone ;)
- LordDragonfang 5y ago
  Perhaps just add a toggle as to what behavior the shift key has? It's just a boolean value, after all.
- xmonkee 5y ago
  I agree with the parent. I love the game but the controls are not fun for me. I would do the following (for ME): - arrow keys move the cursor - the cursor is easier to see. Just a circle is probably better for me than the overlapping shadows - shift + arrow does the move - the cursor follows the moved element
- Evidlo 5y ago
  You could also do arrow keys for selecting column/row and wasd for moving it.
mackopes 5y ago
I could imagine also a combination of arrows and wasd for controls. Arrows for moving the selection around and wasd to shift the rows/columns.
- throwaway744678 5y ago
  hjkl for our geeky friends?
  - a9h74j 5y ago
    Note to self: In an HTML game engine, must have user-configurable key bindings.
    - drekipus 5y ago
      Well at least just vim bindings
lloeki 5y ago
> In my mind, conceptually, arrow keys are for moving the selection, and tessellating objects "requires more work" so I'd expect Shift to be needed for that - not vice-versa. Totally swapped in my mind too! I guess it's one of those "look up/down" thing in FPSs, you can learn the other way but it still does not feel as natural.
emilfihlman 5y ago
100% agreed. What's even more annoying is that the way this is currently implemented, I can't even use local overrides to change the behaviour since the site uses query strings for everything. I am irritated and annoyed beyond measure.

by yboris 5y ago

Max-q 5y ago

I agree to this.

jsnell 5y ago

The most convenient way to play seems to be to use mouse for selection, keyboard for sliding. That would become pretty inconvenient if sliding required use of the shift key too.

zamadatix 5y ago
I'd rather drag with a mouse instead of have to click to set location then press keys to slide. As a bonus drag would also work for touch.

shubhamjain 5y ago

It was exactly the way you describe in the earlier prototype. But I changed it based on feedback. I guess there's no set of controls that can satisfy everyone. :) I do think you develop muscle memory for it pretty quick. Additionally, you can also use mouse, which can be convenient based on your preference.

yboris 5y ago
Oh I see! If you use the mouse to click around and arrow keys to move! Seems like a single toggle checkbox would be enough to satisfy everyone ;)
LordDragonfang 5y ago
Perhaps just add a toggle as to what behavior the shift key has? It's just a boolean value, after all.
xmonkee 5y ago
I agree with the parent. I love the game but the controls are not fun for me. I would do the following (for ME): - arrow keys move the cursor - the cursor is easier to see. Just a circle is probably better for me than the overlapping shadows - shift + arrow does the move - the cursor follows the moved element
Evidlo 5y ago
You could also do arrow keys for selecting column/row and wasd for moving it.

mackopes 5y ago

I could imagine also a combination of arrows and wasd for controls. Arrows for moving the selection around and wasd to shift the rows/columns.

throwaway744678 5y ago
hjkl for our geeky friends?
- a9h74j 5y ago
  Note to self: In an HTML game engine, must have user-configurable key bindings.
  - drekipus 5y ago
    Well at least just vim bindings

lloeki 5y ago

> In my mind, conceptually, arrow keys are for moving the selection, and tessellating objects "requires more work" so I'd expect Shift to be needed for that - not vice-versa. Totally swapped in my mind too! I guess it's one of those "look up/down" thing in FPSs, you can learn the other way but it still does not feel as natural.

emilfihlman 5y ago

100% agreed. What's even more annoying is that the way this is currently implemented, I can't even use local overrides to change the behaviour since the site uses query strings for everything. I am irritated and annoyed beyond measure.