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As somebody who despises SF and thinks crime is out of control in most US cities, this move by Kraken feels a bit absurd and over the top. Can it really be that

As somebody who despises SF and thinks crime is out of control in most US cities, this move by Kraken feels a bit absurd and over the top. Can it really be that bad?

Ambolia 5y ago
“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually, then suddenly.”
VerminOctopus1 5y ago
No, it’s not that bad, this is a PR move to pander to a specific politically oriented audience.
- smcl 5y ago
  Yep it has the feel of one of those items (ab)used by Rubin, Shapiro and friends as evidence that the dang leftist, communist Demoncrats in charge of California are turning it into a living hell for good god-fearing citizens. Culture war nonsense basically.
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- themanmaran 5y ago
  And who is that specific customer base Kraken is trying to attract by shutting down it's headquarters? The right-wing crypto investors that needed a reason to switch away from Coinbase? As far st PR moves go, this one seems dubious.
- mardifoufs 5y ago
  Yes that makes sense. They are just doing it to own the libs? Sorry but that's ridiculous, it sounds like you need to tune off the culture war a bit.
duxup 5y ago
What would crime "in control" look like?
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Singapore.
  - duxup 5y ago
    In that case isn't crime 'out of control' in most places, everywhere, all the time?
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bodyfour 5y ago
I guess yes and no. SF is certainly a city with its problems. I can't say that wasn't part of my decision to move away years ago. However, the current right-wing meme of "new left-wing prosecutors instantly turned SF into an unliveable hellscape" is mostly just well-financed propaganda. The statistics don't support a huge surge in violent crime except in the sense that (like everywhere) it's rebounded from temporary lows during covid lockdowns: https://twitter.com/petercalloway/status/1510032517876764674 https://twitter.com/petercalloway/status/1510032517876764674
pjlegato 5y ago
As a longtime San Francisco resident, I can confirm: yes, it's that bad. I posted another comment above with more details.

As somebody who despises SF and thinks crime is out of control in most US cities, this move by Kraken feels a bit absurd and over the top. Can it really be that bad?

Ambolia 5y ago

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually, then suddenly.”

VerminOctopus1 5y ago

No, it’s not that bad, this is a PR move to pander to a specific politically oriented audience.

smcl 5y ago
Yep it has the feel of one of those items (ab)used by Rubin, Shapiro and friends as evidence that the dang leftist, communist Demoncrats in charge of California are turning it into a living hell for good god-fearing citizens. Culture war nonsense basically.
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themanmaran 5y ago
And who is that specific customer base Kraken is trying to attract by shutting down it's headquarters? The right-wing crypto investors that needed a reason to switch away from Coinbase? As far st PR moves go, this one seems dubious.
mardifoufs 5y ago
Yes that makes sense. They are just doing it to own the libs? Sorry but that's ridiculous, it sounds like you need to tune off the culture war a bit.

duxup 5y ago

What would crime "in control" look like?

josephcsible 5y ago
Singapore.
- duxup 5y ago
  In that case isn't crime 'out of control' in most places, everywhere, all the time?

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bodyfour 5y ago

I guess yes and no. SF is certainly a city with its problems. I can't say that wasn't part of my decision to move away years ago. However, the current right-wing meme of "new left-wing prosecutors instantly turned SF into an unliveable hellscape" is mostly just well-financed propaganda. The statistics don't support a huge surge in violent crime except in the sense that (like everywhere) it's rebounded from temporary lows during covid lockdowns: https://twitter.com/petercalloway/status/1510032517876764674 https://twitter.com/petercalloway/status/1510032517876764674

pjlegato 5y ago

As a longtime San Francisco resident, I can confirm: yes, it's that bad. I posted another comment above with more details.