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>I get not doing mail-in-voting but what's wrong with early voting? I remember there was a huge line in front of the french embassy here last elections because

by scythe 5y ago

>I get not doing mail-in-voting but what's wrong with early voting? I remember there was a huge line in front of the french embassy here last elections because there's no exception to that rule for expats. I assume that their "proxy" system addresses this problem sufficiently for internal voters. Also, the actual voting process is far more streamlined: https://www.pret-a-voyager.com/2017/05/french-lessons-voting-in-france/ https://www.pret-a-voyager.com/2017/05/french-lessons-voting... so the throughput at polling places is much better. The central mechanism of voter suppression in the United States is lines (ok, also felony disenfranchisement), and every reform the Democrats propose is trying to end-run that system so that the lines won't matter.

rayiner 5y ago
> central mechanism of voter suppression in the United States is lines LOL. So when you see long voting lines in Atlanta, it’s because Fulton County (the entity responsible for polling places)—which is run by a Board that’s majority Democrat and majority Black—is engaged in “voter suppression” of Black Democrat voters?
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  More likely, it's because Fulton County is constrained by policies of the State of Georgia whose executive and legislative officers are..neither majority Democratic nor majority Black.
  - rayiner 5y ago
    Sorry, "because Republicans" isn't a response. Read Title 21, Chapter 2, Article 7 of the Georgia Code and tell me how Fulton County's inability to conduct elections properly as it is required and empowered to do under the statute is somehow someone else's fault.
- scythe 5y ago
  Potentially, yes. And no, that's not a contradiction, unless you seriously believe that the Democratic Party is doing its best to support working-class Black people. In which case, I'd like to inform you about the great investment potential of this bridge I'm selling. But you're still going to have to convince me that such lines are a thing in Fulton, specifically. The article I cross-referenced suggests they opened a lot more polling places to address the problem in the last election cycle. Edit: I forgot to post the article. It's been a hard month. https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-geo...
  - rayiner 5y ago
    > Potentially, yes. And no, that's not a contradiction, unless you seriously believe that the Democratic Party is doing its best to support working-class Black people. Fulton County isn't run by "the Democratic Party." It's run by a Board elected by the people of Fulton County. It is, moreover, a prosperous, urban area, with the highest median household income in the state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgia_(U.S._state)_locations_by_per_capita_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgia_(U.S._state)_l.... If it can't run its own elections properly, that's its own fault.

by scythe 5y ago

rayiner 5y ago

> central mechanism of voter suppression in the United States is lines LOL. So when you see long voting lines in Atlanta, it’s because Fulton County (the entity responsible for polling places)—which is run by a Board that’s majority Democrat and majority Black—is engaged in “voter suppression” of Black Democrat voters?

dragonwriter 5y ago
More likely, it's because Fulton County is constrained by policies of the State of Georgia whose executive and legislative officers are..neither majority Democratic nor majority Black.
- rayiner 5y ago
  Sorry, "because Republicans" isn't a response. Read Title 21, Chapter 2, Article 7 of the Georgia Code and tell me how Fulton County's inability to conduct elections properly as it is required and empowered to do under the statute is somehow someone else's fault.
scythe 5y ago
Potentially, yes. And no, that's not a contradiction, unless you seriously believe that the Democratic Party is doing its best to support working-class Black people. In which case, I'd like to inform you about the great investment potential of this bridge I'm selling. But you're still going to have to convince me that such lines are a thing in Fulton, specifically. The article I cross-referenced suggests they opened a lot more polling places to address the problem in the last election cycle. Edit: I forgot to post the article. It's been a hard month. https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-geo...
- rayiner 5y ago
  > Potentially, yes. And no, that's not a contradiction, unless you seriously believe that the Democratic Party is doing its best to support working-class Black people. Fulton County isn't run by "the Democratic Party." It's run by a Board elected by the people of Fulton County. It is, moreover, a prosperous, urban area, with the highest median household income in the state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgia_(U.S._state)_locations_by_per_capita_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgia_(U.S._state)_l.... If it can't run its own elections properly, that's its own fault.