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The first step to a carbon free future is energy independence. You walk before you run a marathon. Why is this? If an external supplier sees you building an al
by exabrial 5y ago
The first step to a carbon free future is energy independence. You walk before you run a marathon.
Why is this? If an external supplier sees you building an alternative to get off their product, they will sabotage your efforts by artificially dropping their prices below cost, tanking your efforts. This happens repeatedly with OPEC and we keep falling for it.
I think this is an opportunity for blue + red to agree on the outcome, but for slightly different conclusions. Until we can work past cutting off your nose to protect personal identity politics, we are unlikely to see any measurable progress.
- erdos4d 5y ago> Until we can work past cutting off your nose to protect personal identity politics, we are unlikely to see any measurable progress. I agree. Hypothetically speaking, are there any betting markets that would allow a person to "short" this issue? I think we all know this will never happen.
- shkkmo 5y agoEnergy independence doesn't mean immunity to global commodity prices. As long as we use and sell oil, we will see energy price impacts from external suppliers manipulating the price.
- throwaway2016a 5y ago> If an external supplier sees you building an alternative to get off their product, they will sabotage your efforts by artificially dropping their prices below cost, tanking your efforts. US owned / domestic oil companies can still do this. I don't see what independence gets us here. Unless we go the communist route and nationalize oil production, which clearly will never happen in the US.