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Because they don't try to convict unless they already know the person is likely guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINAk2xl8Bc https://www.youtube.com/watc

Because they don't try to convict unless they already know the person is likely guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINAk2xl8Bc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINAk2xl8Bc

actionfromafar 5y ago
Do we know this? To the police "know we can get a conviction" and "know is guilty" may be a distinction without a difference.
- asiachick 5y ago
  Did you watch the video? The difference in numbers is how things are measured. Measure them the same way and Japan's rate is lower than the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#:~:text=If%20measured%20in%20the%20same,someone%20while%20committing%20a%20crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#:~:text=If%20m....
namelessoracle 5y ago
The Japanese system is big on coercing confessions (the American system is big on plea deals so you might think its the same, but its not quite the same thing). They have all kinds of buttons they can press to force the issue on you. Another thing is even you are somehow found innocent, the prosecutor gets to immediately appeal and they are likely to win that appeal. You stay in jail/prison while all this plays out. The US system is SUPPOSED to be based on its better to let the guilty go free than punish the innocent. (It fails at this but this is at least a lip service value) The Japanese system doesnt do this or really hold this as a major value.
rasz 5y ago
well "Jailed in Japan for a crime she didn’t commit, a young American teacher learns the meaning of the phrase sho ga nai — “It can’t be helped.”" https://nymag.com/vindicated/2016/11/truth-lies-and-videotape-at-the-kawasaki-kmart.html https://nymag.com/vindicated/2016/11/truth-lies-and-videotap... "The security guard had been trying to meet a quota and felt that I, as a foreigner, would make an easy target."
- asiachick 5y ago
  You're cherry picking. I can google "wrong person arrested" or similar and find 1000s of stories in the USA. The fact is Japan's conviction rate is lower than USA if you measure the same way. It's only because of the way it's measured that it appears to be higher.

Because they don't try to convict unless they already know the person is likely guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINAk2xl8Bc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINAk2xl8Bc

actionfromafar 5y ago

Do we know this? To the police "know we can get a conviction" and "know is guilty" may be a distinction without a difference.

asiachick 5y ago
Did you watch the video? The difference in numbers is how things are measured. Measure them the same way and Japan's rate is lower than the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#:~:text=If%20measured%20in%20the%20same,someone%20while%20committing%20a%20crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#:~:text=If%20m....

namelessoracle 5y ago

The Japanese system is big on coercing confessions (the American system is big on plea deals so you might think its the same, but its not quite the same thing). They have all kinds of buttons they can press to force the issue on you. Another thing is even you are somehow found innocent, the prosecutor gets to immediately appeal and they are likely to win that appeal. You stay in jail/prison while all this plays out. The US system is SUPPOSED to be based on its better to let the guilty go free than punish the innocent. (It fails at this but this is at least a lip service value) The Japanese system doesnt do this or really hold this as a major value.

rasz 5y ago

well "Jailed in Japan for a crime she didn’t commit, a young American teacher learns the meaning of the phrase sho ga nai — “It can’t be helped.”" https://nymag.com/vindicated/2016/11/truth-lies-and-videotape-at-the-kawasaki-kmart.html https://nymag.com/vindicated/2016/11/truth-lies-and-videotap... "The security guard had been trying to meet a quota and felt that I, as a foreigner, would make an easy target."

asiachick 5y ago
You're cherry picking. I can google "wrong person arrested" or similar and find 1000s of stories in the USA. The fact is Japan's conviction rate is lower than USA if you measure the same way. It's only because of the way it's measured that it appears to be higher.