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I have the same licensing model in Lunar (https://lunar.fyi/ https://lunar.fyi/) You buy the app as is now, and you get to keep this version of the app forever

by alin23 5y ago

I have the same licensing model in Lunar (https://lunar.fyi/ https://lunar.fyi/) You buy the app as is now, and you get to keep this version of the app forever. Just like you would buy any other good. On top of that, you also get 1 year of free updates, and you get to keep using those new versions forever as well. How is this a subscription? Why should the developer work forever for you on a meager $25 payment?

rplnt 5y ago
> Just like you would buy any other good. Software is not a "good". If you bought "go ide" a year+ ago and your updates ran out, you can throw it away now. > On top of that, you also get 1 year of free updates They are not free, you subscribed to them by paying the subscription. What is free is the copy of the software after your subscription ends. > How is this a subscription? It's a subscription because the product you buy is supported for one year. > Why should the developer work forever for you on a meager $25 payment? This is irrelevant to the topic at hand. FWIW, I think it's a good model, for both user and the developer, but I would not try to pretend it's not a subscription with a big bold text. Just avoid the word and all is good.
- varnaud 5y ago
  A subscription usually imply you lose access to the software when the subscription ends, which is not the case here.
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kissgyorgy 5y ago
You and I both know very well that software is not something you buy and you can use forever without adjusting it to new operating systems over time. I don't have a problem with the model, I have a problem with LIES.
- alin23 5y ago
  I'm well aware of that. But I'm also aware that human time is expensive, and paying $25 shouldn't entitle you to someone's time indefinitely. This model is just one of the ways of ensuring that the developer has a constant flow of money so they can keep working on the tool. Even with this model, I'm already looking for jobs, because I don't get enough money for the 14-hour days I have to put in to keep up with hardware changes. An editor is far easier to keep using after the 1-year period has ended, especially if it has support for plugins which should update for free.

by alin23 5y ago

rplnt 5y ago

> Just like you would buy any other good. Software is not a "good". If you bought "go ide" a year+ ago and your updates ran out, you can throw it away now. > On top of that, you also get 1 year of free updates They are not free, you subscribed to them by paying the subscription. What is free is the copy of the software after your subscription ends. > How is this a subscription? It's a subscription because the product you buy is supported for one year. > Why should the developer work forever for you on a meager $25 payment? This is irrelevant to the topic at hand. FWIW, I think it's a good model, for both user and the developer, but I would not try to pretend it's not a subscription with a big bold text. Just avoid the word and all is good.

varnaud 5y ago
A subscription usually imply you lose access to the software when the subscription ends, which is not the case here.

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kissgyorgy 5y ago

You and I both know very well that software is not something you buy and you can use forever without adjusting it to new operating systems over time. I don't have a problem with the model, I have a problem with LIES.

alin23 5y ago
I'm well aware of that. But I'm also aware that human time is expensive, and paying $25 shouldn't entitle you to someone's time indefinitely. This model is just one of the ways of ensuring that the developer has a constant flow of money so they can keep working on the tool. Even with this model, I'm already looking for jobs, because I don't get enough money for the 14-hour days I have to put in to keep up with hardware changes. An editor is far easier to keep using after the 1-year period has ended, especially if it has support for plugins which should update for free.