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After clicking through endless marketing speak on multiple pages I still wasn't able to find anything remotely substantiating the claim "the world's most powerf

After clicking through endless marketing speak on multiple pages I still wasn't able to find anything remotely substantiating the claim "the world's most powerful'. As it is running on cloud machines as a SaaS business that might theoretically just mean potentially most available computer cores for a comparable offering. Or any other BS market g can come up with. At the time of writing there isn't even a footnote or anything to that claim. Companies that do this are on my instant black list. Why should I trust them, when they don't show sources, or anything to back up their claim in an easy to discover way. Edit before potential answers: Maybe they have something to the claim. Maybe the offering is actually great. I wouldn't know. I wasn't able to somewhat verify the big claim and therefore did not go deeper into the offering. Unsubstantiated marketing speak just rubs me the wrong way.

ma2rten 5y ago
I don't know if they have the world's most powerful NLP toolkit (what does that even mean?), but they do have a strong team. I think it's worth a second look.
- usgroup 5y ago
  Their combined total bench press weight is truly outstanding.
  - aidanngomez 5y ago
    thank you
- sdoering 5y ago
  I don't question their team. It at least sounds mightily impressive (just checked). My problem was, that this Form of marketing claim put me off. Might be a cultural thing. I wasn't even interested in spending more time than looking at around 5 pages to see if the claim might be substantiated somewhere. It wasn't obvious so the heuristic is that it is not substantiated.
  - thatwasunusual 5y ago
    > I don't question their team. It at least sounds mightily impressive (just checked). My problem was, that this Form of marketing claim put me off. I'm totally with you, and... > Might be a cultural thing. ...for me it might actually be a "cultural" thing. I'm from Norway, and in Norway it's illegal for companies to _claim_ that their products are the best, cheapest etc. So to me, whenever someone claims this - like in this case - my BS-instincts immediately kicks in, and I become very skeptical. Sorry for the digression. :)
- i_am_nomad 5y ago
  I’ve worked with some truly excellent people who came from Theranos.
jayalammar 5y ago
Thanks, sdoering. Cohere engineer here. Happy to provide some context. You can can find performance benchmarks here: https://txt.cohere.ai/launch-larger-embed-models#model-comparison https://txt.cohere.ai/launch-larger-embed-models#model-compa... Cohere provides an API to access and finetune large language models (generative models like GPT and text representation/embedding models like BERT). These types of language models empower the majority of the latest developments in natural language understanding and generation. Your feedback is well taken, we'll work to make these more reachable from the homepage.

ma2rten 5y ago

I don't know if they have the world's most powerful NLP toolkit (what does that even mean?), but they do have a strong team. I think it's worth a second look.

usgroup 5y ago
Their combined total bench press weight is truly outstanding.
- aidanngomez 5y ago
  thank you
sdoering 5y ago
I don't question their team. It at least sounds mightily impressive (just checked). My problem was, that this Form of marketing claim put me off. Might be a cultural thing. I wasn't even interested in spending more time than looking at around 5 pages to see if the claim might be substantiated somewhere. It wasn't obvious so the heuristic is that it is not substantiated.
- thatwasunusual 5y ago
  > I don't question their team. It at least sounds mightily impressive (just checked). My problem was, that this Form of marketing claim put me off. I'm totally with you, and... > Might be a cultural thing. ...for me it might actually be a "cultural" thing. I'm from Norway, and in Norway it's illegal for companies to _claim_ that their products are the best, cheapest etc. So to me, whenever someone claims this - like in this case - my BS-instincts immediately kicks in, and I become very skeptical. Sorry for the digression. :)
i_am_nomad 5y ago
I’ve worked with some truly excellent people who came from Theranos.

jayalammar 5y ago

Thanks, sdoering. Cohere engineer here. Happy to provide some context. You can can find performance benchmarks here: https://txt.cohere.ai/launch-larger-embed-models#model-comparison https://txt.cohere.ai/launch-larger-embed-models#model-compa... Cohere provides an API to access and finetune large language models (generative models like GPT and text representation/embedding models like BERT). These types of language models empower the majority of the latest developments in natural language understanding and generation. Your feedback is well taken, we'll work to make these more reachable from the homepage.