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Interestingly, I think login walls are to stop spam. It interests me how many design decisions by youtube, for example, were to stop spam and getting rid of fak
by redmen 5y ago
Interestingly, I think login walls are to stop spam. It interests me how many design decisions by youtube, for example, were to stop spam and getting rid of fake views and likes. Not directly for the user's experience.
- woodruffw 5y agoI'd believe that! It's entirely possible and even likely that they're well intentioned. But they just don't work, because the spam is coming from inside the house.
- xg15 5y agoI don't buy it. You always needed an account in order to post - that's nothing new. What's new is that Twitter now locks you out just for reading tweets without an account.
- duskwuff 5y ago> Interestingly, I think login walls are to stop spam. I don't think that holds up in general, and especially not in Twitter's case. Logged-out users can barely interact with the site -- all of the important interactions (and, in particular, all of the ones that would be concerning from a spam-prevention standpoint) require the user to be logged in. I'm not sure it applies to YouTube either. The site has very few login requirements, other than for age-restricted videos.
- ineedasername 5y agoYou've always had to login to post, so I don't see how twitters increasing push to force logins would impact a preexisting spam problem.
- redmen 5y agoScraping for one.
- nicce 5y agoYou don’t push feature like that for tens of millions to prevent some scrapers who bypass it in few minutes by creating account which is not providing anything to Twitter. They account requirement is simple there for more efficient data collection.
- saagarjha 5y agoPreventing scraping is kind of the point of "Twitter is increasing the height of the walls around its garden".
- shiomiru 5y agoIt doesn't prevent scraping at all, otherwise nitter wouldn't work either.
- redmen 5y ago???? Firstly nothing prevents scraping. It makes it more expensive. I ask everyone here to stop telling every word so literal
- anothernewdude 5y ago> I think login walls are to stop spam You need a login in order to spam. What a stupid theory.
- wbsss4412 5y agoWhile I agree with your first sentence, I don’t think your second sentence is constructive.
- redmen 5y agoThat's exactly what I said LOL. What's the need for your anger?
- nicce 5y agoTwitter has always required account for posting. The problem is that reading requires now as well.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago> That's exactly what I said LOL Well, no, it's exactly the opposite of what you said. It's kind of concerning that you can't tell the difference. A login requirement can't have any effect on spammers, because -- in order to be spammers -- they must already have satisfied that requirement. The only people a login requirement can exclude are, by definition, not spammers.
- redmen 5y agoUmmmm a spammer is a person who must create many accounts to game the system. If there was no login requirement they could spam in other ways, for example voting, on YouTube: views. Scraping is a huge part of spamming. First you need to identify what you are going to do, which audience you are going to go after. I'm not sure if you are trolling or just being overly pedantic to argue for the sake of arguing or what but it's tiring. Spammers scrape data and sell it to other spammers who do other actions. When you come in with an intent to disprove you're going to be looking for holes in what someone says rather than focusing on the value. That's one of the main problems with the web and the world these days.
- redmen 5y agoedit: to also stop spam. I wish people would give you the benefit of the doubt instead of finding a single wrong word and then attacking that point.