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He is talking about all time high levels of censorship if you count the number of humans being censored. I've been banned and unbanned 4 times (130k subs on you

He is talking about all time high levels of censorship if you count the number of humans being censored. I've been banned and unbanned 4 times (130k subs on youtube.) An ex president was removed everywhere. Tons of people are banned every single day, with no recourse but to go to empty alt-tech sites where no one watches. You are also at all time high surveillance. You're also at all time high freedom of movement restriction. I could go on, but I'm tired of gritting my teeth.

morelisp 5y ago
We are also at record numbers of humans speaking their mind freely, record numbers of humans keeping secrets, and (if we stop ca. pre-2020 or project current trends a year or two in the future) record numbers of humans moving between countries. Maybe "number of humans" is not a good metric.
- RichardHeart 5y ago
  Further support for "number of humans" being a good metric. Just looking at percentages, you could do great harm to one group or area, and just "buy" yourself out of it ethically by treating other people somewhere else a little better on net. The devil is literally in the details.
- RichardHeart 5y ago
  As a person being surveilled, censored and my ability to travel impaired, how would you suggest I best frame the argument? While you're at it, I'm rather tired of the value of the money I saved being destroyed by lifetime high inflation rates. Thanks for helping me frame my arguments better.
  - webmaven 5y ago
    Frame it as a percentage of the total population.
    - RichardHeart 5y ago
      The beautiful thing about censorship, is, it's hard to detect, because those censored must find side channels to announce they've been harmed. The private companies doing the censoring don't publish stats. Your advice, so far, is quite similar to "start your own social network." Do you have anything actionable I can use to make the world a better place?
      - webmaven 5y ago
        You state that the number of people suffering from censorship is at an all time high. Presumably you have a number to back that up? If so, you can express that as a percentage of the relevant population(s) instead. As for something even more constructive... Perhaps you could promote the use of TOR and other privacy and censorship circumvention tools.
  - MrMan 5y ago
    Where are you trying to travel?
    - RichardHeart 5y ago
      Canada.
- RichardHeart 5y ago
  Appeal to percentages is always funny to me. If you get killed by a faulty tire exploding, you can take solace in that it doesn't happen that often. Maybe number of humans is a really good metric.

morelisp 5y ago

We are also at record numbers of humans speaking their mind freely, record numbers of humans keeping secrets, and (if we stop ca. pre-2020 or project current trends a year or two in the future) record numbers of humans moving between countries. Maybe "number of humans" is not a good metric.

RichardHeart 5y ago
Further support for "number of humans" being a good metric. Just looking at percentages, you could do great harm to one group or area, and just "buy" yourself out of it ethically by treating other people somewhere else a little better on net. The devil is literally in the details.
RichardHeart 5y ago
As a person being surveilled, censored and my ability to travel impaired, how would you suggest I best frame the argument? While you're at it, I'm rather tired of the value of the money I saved being destroyed by lifetime high inflation rates. Thanks for helping me frame my arguments better.
- webmaven 5y ago
  Frame it as a percentage of the total population.
  - RichardHeart 5y ago
    The beautiful thing about censorship, is, it's hard to detect, because those censored must find side channels to announce they've been harmed. The private companies doing the censoring don't publish stats. Your advice, so far, is quite similar to "start your own social network." Do you have anything actionable I can use to make the world a better place?
    - webmaven 5y ago
      You state that the number of people suffering from censorship is at an all time high. Presumably you have a number to back that up? If so, you can express that as a percentage of the relevant population(s) instead. As for something even more constructive... Perhaps you could promote the use of TOR and other privacy and censorship circumvention tools.
- MrMan 5y ago
  Where are you trying to travel?
  - RichardHeart 5y ago
    Canada.
RichardHeart 5y ago
Appeal to percentages is always funny to me. If you get killed by a faulty tire exploding, you can take solace in that it doesn't happen that often. Maybe number of humans is a really good metric.