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I respectfully disagree. Traveling to the office or for an offsite once a quarter is totally reasonable and when planned some three weeks ahead or so, should po

I respectfully disagree. Traveling to the office or for an offsite once a quarter is totally reasonable and when planned some three weeks ahead or so, should pose no issues whatsoever. If you are unable to fit this in your schedule, or are actually that mentally unfit you cannot oblige your fellow humans in your job... Every once in a while? Then you should not have that job. This should be considered reasonable by any standard. Not wanting to deal with humans most of the time... Fine. Not being able to deal with your human colleagues, who do want to deal with each other, ever? Not fine. $0.02

hiq 5y ago
I don't get the absolutes here, this can easily be discussed during interviews and before signing anything. Either the company and the future employee agree on what's reasonable and they sign, or they don't, and that's it.
y-c-o-m-b 5y ago
You can disagree all you want, but at the end of the day it's still only your opinion and is unrealistic. For full disclosure, I have a neurological disease with physical ailments, I have digestive medical problems which would make it embarrassing for me and very uncomfortable for them, and I have a personality disorder which includes anxiety and depression as a bonus. All of which makes onsite participation literally torture for just a few hours, let alone a whole week of it. Clearly I've done my job so effectively for so long that I can work anywhere in tech and demand top salaries, so your comment about "not having that job" is not only extremely lacking in empathy, but downright wrong. EDIT: just to clarify, this is only relevant for employers that do not disclose the requirement during the hiring phase. If they disclose it ahead of time, then I might agree with you.
- mvdwoord 5y ago
  Sorry to hear about your issues, and good for you you have enjoyed, and feel assured you can maintain, good paying work fully remote. I indeed assumed full disclosure, both ways. When you have explicitly agreed you will never come in, this should definitely not become an expectation later on. For the vast majority of jobs though and in the vast majority of cases I still feel it is very normal for people to expect to see each other every now and then in person. Even when the work itself can be done equally well remote and even when there is a significant effort involved.
  - y-c-o-m-b 5y ago
    In that case I apologize for making a bad assumption and wording my response in an emotionally charged way.
ipaddr 5y ago
There will be in person positions for people like yourself. A remote position means no traveling either.

hiq 5y ago

I don't get the absolutes here, this can easily be discussed during interviews and before signing anything. Either the company and the future employee agree on what's reasonable and they sign, or they don't, and that's it.

y-c-o-m-b 5y ago

You can disagree all you want, but at the end of the day it's still only your opinion and is unrealistic. For full disclosure, I have a neurological disease with physical ailments, I have digestive medical problems which would make it embarrassing for me and very uncomfortable for them, and I have a personality disorder which includes anxiety and depression as a bonus. All of which makes onsite participation literally torture for just a few hours, let alone a whole week of it. Clearly I've done my job so effectively for so long that I can work anywhere in tech and demand top salaries, so your comment about "not having that job" is not only extremely lacking in empathy, but downright wrong. EDIT: just to clarify, this is only relevant for employers that do not disclose the requirement during the hiring phase. If they disclose it ahead of time, then I might agree with you.

mvdwoord 5y ago
Sorry to hear about your issues, and good for you you have enjoyed, and feel assured you can maintain, good paying work fully remote. I indeed assumed full disclosure, both ways. When you have explicitly agreed you will never come in, this should definitely not become an expectation later on. For the vast majority of jobs though and in the vast majority of cases I still feel it is very normal for people to expect to see each other every now and then in person. Even when the work itself can be done equally well remote and even when there is a significant effort involved.
- y-c-o-m-b 5y ago
  In that case I apologize for making a bad assumption and wording my response in an emotionally charged way.

ipaddr 5y ago

There will be in person positions for people like yourself. A remote position means no traveling either.