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The company I'm working for is struggling with this. They firmly believe in no remote. They won't entertain it for juniors, and generally to get approval you ne

The company I'm working for is struggling with this. They firmly believe in no remote. They won't entertain it for juniors, and generally to get approval you need to be pretty vital. But at the same time they've also opened up multiple offices (that are all in different geos, timezones). What the end result is that in my section of the company I'm effectively remote working from the off as my team has a remote contractor, and the other teams in my area are all dispersed between home and the new other offices. It's frustrating being told to go into work and getting no benefit from it besides a change of scenery. I'm not sure I'm cut out for full remote at least in my current housing situation/skill level. I suspect other companies are in a similar situation, and it's part of the growing pains of getting larger. But fuck is it hard to be happy with it.

spaniard89277 5y ago
Dude, you're an employee. If management doesn't respect you, look elsewhere. You're working in IT, it's not like you can't change work. You'll risk getting less money, but if you're happier who cares?
- bialpio 5y ago
  Small note: there are people who cannot change work in IT because it would affect their visa or immigration status.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    H1-B transfer is possible if your potential new employer will perform the transfer with USCIS. (Edit: typo corrected, thanks kaapipo)
    - nabusman 5y ago
      You can also get denied and get kicked out, it's not a guaranteed process AFAIK IANAL.
    - kaapipo 5y ago
      *your
    - bialpio 5y ago
      IIRC the transfer can affect the green card process depending on the stage you are at. IANAL, check with your immigration attorney.
      - bialpio 5y ago
        (this also assumes that the person is on H-1B and not on L-1, which cannot be transferred)
        emteycz 5y ago
        A person on L-1 should've known they will be moving home soon. This works exactly the same in EU and IMHO it's only logical - you'd be able to skip the usual "queue" otherwise.
        bialpio 5y ago
        L-1 can be extended a couple of times (up to 7 years total I think?), so "soon" is relative (especially given that it gives you a couple tries at the H-1B, but only if you can hold on to the job). I think my main point still stands: you can't always just pack up your things and leave (or rather, you can, but the consequences aren't always a simple job hunt, sometimes they involve relocating internationally) so you may be willing to tolerate more abuse or conditions that are less than perfect for you.
  - gorjusborg 5y ago
    Thanks for pointing this out. I'm a U.S. citizen, but I have had friends that were not, and I was horrified to hear the stories of how companies (that I worked for at the time as well) were using that 'leverage'. I will no longer work for those sorts of companies.
    - bialpio 5y ago
      It does not necessarily need to be something that companies actively do, it's also that the process is set up that way. For example, I know I was not actively seeking other opportunities until I got my green card. IIRC, even transferring to a slightly different role within the same company could affect how quickly the process progressed (I think part of the paperwork would need to be re-filed).
  - peppermint_tea 5y ago
    yup, I have to bear with the bullshit. I love my daughter man.
- MivLives 5y ago
  It's a combination of: I really like my manager and have had much worse, I'm using the company to move me to one of the other locations, and not really minding the going in. I'll probably start looking after the move. My manager doesn't have much control of the WFH thing, it's the CEOs directive. I'm just a junior engineer with not much sway so my remote request was denied by their bosses boss who has never met me.
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spaniard89277 5y ago

Dude, you're an employee. If management doesn't respect you, look elsewhere. You're working in IT, it's not like you can't change work. You'll risk getting less money, but if you're happier who cares?

bialpio 5y ago
Small note: there are people who cannot change work in IT because it would affect their visa or immigration status.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  H1-B transfer is possible if your potential new employer will perform the transfer with USCIS. (Edit: typo corrected, thanks kaapipo)
  - nabusman 5y ago
    You can also get denied and get kicked out, it's not a guaranteed process AFAIK IANAL.
  - kaapipo 5y ago
    *your
  - bialpio 5y ago
    IIRC the transfer can affect the green card process depending on the stage you are at. IANAL, check with your immigration attorney.
    - bialpio 5y ago
      (this also assumes that the person is on H-1B and not on L-1, which cannot be transferred)
      - emteycz 5y ago
        A person on L-1 should've known they will be moving home soon. This works exactly the same in EU and IMHO it's only logical - you'd be able to skip the usual "queue" otherwise.
        bialpio 5y ago
        L-1 can be extended a couple of times (up to 7 years total I think?), so "soon" is relative (especially given that it gives you a couple tries at the H-1B, but only if you can hold on to the job). I think my main point still stands: you can't always just pack up your things and leave (or rather, you can, but the consequences aren't always a simple job hunt, sometimes they involve relocating internationally) so you may be willing to tolerate more abuse or conditions that are less than perfect for you.
- gorjusborg 5y ago
  Thanks for pointing this out. I'm a U.S. citizen, but I have had friends that were not, and I was horrified to hear the stories of how companies (that I worked for at the time as well) were using that 'leverage'. I will no longer work for those sorts of companies.
  - bialpio 5y ago
    It does not necessarily need to be something that companies actively do, it's also that the process is set up that way. For example, I know I was not actively seeking other opportunities until I got my green card. IIRC, even transferring to a slightly different role within the same company could affect how quickly the process progressed (I think part of the paperwork would need to be re-filed).
- peppermint_tea 5y ago
  yup, I have to bear with the bullshit. I love my daughter man.
MivLives 5y ago
It's a combination of: I really like my manager and have had much worse, I'm using the company to move me to one of the other locations, and not really minding the going in. I'll probably start looking after the move. My manager doesn't have much control of the WFH thing, it's the CEOs directive. I'm just a junior engineer with not much sway so my remote request was denied by their bosses boss who has never met me.

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