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- Enormous population density. Anywhere even halfway desirable has an outrageous housing market, very high rents, a homeless problem, or all of the above. I wil

- Enormous population density. Anywhere even halfway desirable has an outrageous housing market, very high rents, a homeless problem, or all of the above. I will straight up never be able to afford a house in CA. Even with a ~very~ small inheritance, I still wouldn't be able to afford a downpayment on somewhere decent in or near LA. - Overcrowded nature. This one personally bothered me a lot. Many trails in Southern California are almost always crowded. Beach access is long, difficult, expensive (if you use a parking lot) and exhausting if you live inland. - Fires. Fires get worse every year, and will continue to get worse. The AQI is constantly above 100 in some areas for most of August/September. For people like me with autoimmune conditions, this is pretty dangerous for health. - Increased summer temps. 120 degree days are getting more common in many ares of CA. - Government corruption. High taxes, especially if you're "middle class". - Earthquake risk. I moved to Upstate, NY. Yeah, the weather sucks, but not always. Fall is lovely. Early winter is lovely. Spring is lovely when it's not raining. Summer is humid and gross, but it's an absolute joy in my town with all the festivals. The housing market is crazy, but no so crazy that I couldn't afford a home. The town I live in has decent local government, several lakes, and abundant state forests and hiking trails all around. I miss the LA I grew up in, but it's just not the same any more. I'm trying to convince my mom to retire out here.

floren 5y ago
> Overcrowded nature. This one personally bothered me a lot. Many trails in Southern California are almost always crowded. Beach access is long, difficult, expensive (if you use a parking lot) and exhausting if you live inland. This is a huge one for me. > I moved to Upstate, NY. Yeah, the weather sucks, but not always. Fall is lovely. Early winter is lovely. Spring is lovely when it's not raining. Summer is humid and gross, but it's an absolute joy in my town with all the festivals. The housing market is crazy, but no so crazy that I couldn't afford a home. The town I live in has decent local government, several lakes, and abundant state forests and hiking trails all around. I went to school in Rochester and I really enjoyed it. Even though it may be described as a dying industrial town, I still found it a better place to live than booming SF.
- supertofu 5y ago
  I'm close to Rochester! I'd love to visit. I've only heard lovely things. And I think the town is gearing up for a revival :D
PopAlongKid 5y ago
>Increased summer temps. 120 degree days are getting more common in many ares of CA. That is not correct. Death Valley, one of the hottest places on the planet, may occasionally reach that temperature, but essentially no one lives there.[1] Inland areas may get up to 100 degrees F. several times during the summer, but the humidity is low so it is not oppressive like the midwest or the south. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Valley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Valley
- supertofu 5y ago
  An area I visited near Sacramento was routinely 112-120 degrees last summer.

floren 5y ago

> Overcrowded nature. This one personally bothered me a lot. Many trails in Southern California are almost always crowded. Beach access is long, difficult, expensive (if you use a parking lot) and exhausting if you live inland. This is a huge one for me. > I moved to Upstate, NY. Yeah, the weather sucks, but not always. Fall is lovely. Early winter is lovely. Spring is lovely when it's not raining. Summer is humid and gross, but it's an absolute joy in my town with all the festivals. The housing market is crazy, but no so crazy that I couldn't afford a home. The town I live in has decent local government, several lakes, and abundant state forests and hiking trails all around. I went to school in Rochester and I really enjoyed it. Even though it may be described as a dying industrial town, I still found it a better place to live than booming SF.

supertofu 5y ago
I'm close to Rochester! I'd love to visit. I've only heard lovely things. And I think the town is gearing up for a revival :D

PopAlongKid 5y ago

>Increased summer temps. 120 degree days are getting more common in many ares of CA. That is not correct. Death Valley, one of the hottest places on the planet, may occasionally reach that temperature, but essentially no one lives there.[1] Inland areas may get up to 100 degrees F. several times during the summer, but the humidity is low so it is not oppressive like the midwest or the south. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Valley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Valley

supertofu 5y ago
An area I visited near Sacramento was routinely 112-120 degrees last summer.