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Because companies going back on their word during the hiring process is a bad thing. It's a bait and switch.

by jdhn 5y ago

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ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
This has happened to a number of folks that I have known over the years, and long predates remote work. I have known many people that have picked up and moved across the country for "the dream job," only to return, a couple of months later, tail between their legs, because the job turned out to be unsuitable in any of a dozen different ways (usually, it was because the duties did not match what they were told, but I know of at least one case, where the pay was drastically reduced, or they were hired as a contractor, even though they were told it was a salaried employee of the corporation).
- krisoft 5y ago
  Sounds like a bunch of excellent reasons why such companies should be named. Companies are huge and they can hurt many people at scale. Individuals are small, relatively powerless and easy to manipulate. Especially if they don't organise themselves. Spreading information is the first step of getting organised.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
    I agree, but it's also a good way to get "blackballed" in today's tech industry. I would not encourage people early-to-mid-career, to do this.
    - michaelt 5y ago
      I'm sceptical as to whether you can actually get blackballed, unless your misdeeds achieve a Hans Reiser level of publicity. I've had recruiters claim that if I use the offer they got me to negotiate a raise from my current employer, they'll make sure I never work in this town again - and yet recruiters keep calling.
      - no-s 5y ago
        >unless your misdeeds achieve a Hans Reiser level of publicity. Really. I know people with felony convictions for serious crimes who got back into the industry they offended against. It turns out that background check firms are only reliable when the applicant has no criminal background, heheh.
        datavirtue 5y ago
        Ahh...not hot dog.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
        I've seen it happen. Maybe it's less prevalent than it has been in the past, but managers hate "troublemakers," even if the "troublemakers" are 100% correct. Also, this is a FAANG company. Get problems there, it's likely to metastasize. It would be another thing, if it were BillyBob's WebApp Emporium.

Because companies going back on their word during the hiring process is a bad thing. It's a bait and switch.

by jdhn 5y ago

Because companies going back on their word during the hiring process is a bad thing. It's a bait and switch.

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ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago

This has happened to a number of folks that I have known over the years, and long predates remote work. I have known many people that have picked up and moved across the country for "the dream job," only to return, a couple of months later, tail between their legs, because the job turned out to be unsuitable in any of a dozen different ways (usually, it was because the duties did not match what they were told, but I know of at least one case, where the pay was drastically reduced, or they were hired as a contractor, even though they were told it was a salaried employee of the corporation).

krisoft 5y ago
Sounds like a bunch of excellent reasons why such companies should be named. Companies are huge and they can hurt many people at scale. Individuals are small, relatively powerless and easy to manipulate. Especially if they don't organise themselves. Spreading information is the first step of getting organised.
- ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
  I agree, but it's also a good way to get "blackballed" in today's tech industry. I would not encourage people early-to-mid-career, to do this.
  - michaelt 5y ago
    I'm sceptical as to whether you can actually get blackballed, unless your misdeeds achieve a Hans Reiser level of publicity. I've had recruiters claim that if I use the offer they got me to negotiate a raise from my current employer, they'll make sure I never work in this town again - and yet recruiters keep calling.
    - no-s 5y ago
      >unless your misdeeds achieve a Hans Reiser level of publicity. Really. I know people with felony convictions for serious crimes who got back into the industry they offended against. It turns out that background check firms are only reliable when the applicant has no criminal background, heheh.
      - datavirtue 5y ago
        Ahh...not hot dog.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago
      I've seen it happen. Maybe it's less prevalent than it has been in the past, but managers hate "troublemakers," even if the "troublemakers" are 100% correct. Also, this is a FAANG company. Get problems there, it's likely to metastasize. It would be another thing, if it were BillyBob's WebApp Emporium.