I have so many questions of people here, it's as if I've stumbled onto this group of people who seem interested in exactly the same sorts of games I am. The Ta

I have so many questions of people here, it's as if I've stumbled onto this group of people who seem interested in exactly the same sorts of games I am. The Talos Principle and The Witness have always seemed interesting to me but I've never played them. I think part of it is that with both of them I've had trouble figuring out what they're like. Talos, the more I looked into it, seemed sort of like the puzzles were sort of arbitrary or contrived something? I'm not sure what the right words are. I tend to be more interested in adventure games per se, where the puzzles are ideally fully diagetic in nature, in the sense they're integrated well into the narrative. You're in X narrative scenario, and the problem to solve makes sense as a consequence of the narrative context. It doesn't feel added on post hoc. With both The Witness and Talos Principle I've had trouble figuring out what the gameplay and puzzles are like. I loved Portal and Portal 2 but felt like it was constantly tiptoeing this boundary of where the puzzles would feel too contrived, but without really going over that, maybe because of the testing environment conceit. I'm not sure what I'm saying other than that for me, part of what makes a great puzzle in a computer game is that the puzzle is seamlessly integrated into the narrative, and feels diagetic rather than nondiagetic in nature.