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Wonder if this is related to, > As of July 1, 2022, you will no longer have to access the O’Reilly Learning platform as a benefit of your ACM membership. Despi

Wonder if this is related to, > As of July 1, 2022, you will no longer have to access the O’Reilly Learning platform as a benefit of your ACM membership. Despite our best efforts, O’Reilly Media is unwilling to continue to license their content to ACM for members. The O'Reilly library is great and justified the prices of an ACM membership, but I don't think journal access and my monthly copy of Communications will be enough to keep me come renewal. Unless, of course, they find something equally valuable to replace the O'Reilly catalog with.

darrylb42 5y ago
$100 for a ACM membership $500 for O'Reilly. I can see why O'Reilly didn't want to renew. Learning materials are pretty slim with O'Reilly removed.
- geodel 5y ago
  You are right of course. Maybe a narrower selection would work, instead of zero access now.
- volkadav 5y ago
  TBH I don't know what O'Reilly is thinking with that price point. I wish they had a "lite" version with just book access or something, because honestly that's all I ever use.
- Foobar8568 5y ago
  ACM used to have full access to the O'Reilly online catalog e.g. "live training", and other things. I don't remember exactly when but we got a scaled down version of it, limited to books and video. I dont see myself supporting OReilly at that price especially when they run at least once a year a 50% discount (black friday). ACM offers other sources for books, not as complete catalogue but skillsoft has Manning Publications and No Starch Press, so from IT point of view, already great. I might miss the conference and some books there and there, but what is available is already great. Libgen/youtube and the like will cover the remaining.
jrootabega 5y ago
That's a shame. I don't think I got that email yet; do you have the subject line? I actually joined ACM because O'Reilly did some sketchy stuff with my Safari membership a couple years ago. They sent me an email with an offer to upgrade from Safari to "O'Reilly online learning" with a discount for the first year, and the links were all going to genuine domains. But whenever I tried to actually do it, there was no way for me to see/do the offer on their site, despite being within the offer window. I wrote to confirm I wanted to use the discount, and asked for help, and they just wrote back and said "send us the email." So instead, I used all my download tokens (which also broke and required contacting support), canceled, and got an ACM membership for much cheaper. (Which I would have done anyway had I had a reason to seek it out.) Oh well. There is enough web content today that I don't think it matters that much.
- geodel 5y ago
  Yes, I got email , I think yesterday. O'Reilly was really useful platform for learning. It seems they couldn't renegotiate it for ACM users. To be honest I could have paid more to have O'reilly access.
- ellen364 5y ago
  > do you have the subject line? The email I received had subject line: Notice Regarding Your Access to O'Reilly Content
Someone 5y ago
Why would it be related? Losing the O’Reilly platform makes your ACM membership less valuable. I don’t see this making it more valuable. If anything, it makes it less valuable, as subscribing won’t gain you access to papers published before 2000 anymore (you’ll still have it, but you also will have it is you aren’t an ACM member)
- tinalumfoil 5y ago
  I didn't realize these articles were already available for me. You're right then that this doesn't exactly add value to an ACM membership. But maybe this is to make room to expand the ACM Digital Library in other ways.
mooneater 5y ago
I will quit ACM, this is the only perk that mattered.
- mooneater 5y ago
  Downvoters: fine downvote me, but can you also name a perk that matters?
- flor1s 5y ago
  The unlimited access to the digital library is nice, even though you need to pay extra. I don't think for example IEEE offers a similar benefit.
czx4f4bd 5y ago
Well, shit. I really loved that benefit. I might have to see if my employer will pay for a membership. Now I have to figure out if there's a way to save all my playlists and notes. Guess I didn't think about the potential downsides of storing all those in a system I don't own.
flor1s 5y ago
Oh well... O'Reilly themselves have been losing publishers, a lot of their books (especially containing math) are formatted like crap, their tagging is terrible. Hopefully ACM can make some direct deal with major publishers like MIT Press and Manning.

darrylb42 5y ago

$100 for a ACM membership $500 for O'Reilly. I can see why O'Reilly didn't want to renew. Learning materials are pretty slim with O'Reilly removed.

geodel 5y ago
You are right of course. Maybe a narrower selection would work, instead of zero access now.
volkadav 5y ago
TBH I don't know what O'Reilly is thinking with that price point. I wish they had a "lite" version with just book access or something, because honestly that's all I ever use.
Foobar8568 5y ago
ACM used to have full access to the O'Reilly online catalog e.g. "live training", and other things. I don't remember exactly when but we got a scaled down version of it, limited to books and video. I dont see myself supporting OReilly at that price especially when they run at least once a year a 50% discount (black friday). ACM offers other sources for books, not as complete catalogue but skillsoft has Manning Publications and No Starch Press, so from IT point of view, already great. I might miss the conference and some books there and there, but what is available is already great. Libgen/youtube and the like will cover the remaining.

jrootabega 5y ago

That's a shame. I don't think I got that email yet; do you have the subject line? I actually joined ACM because O'Reilly did some sketchy stuff with my Safari membership a couple years ago. They sent me an email with an offer to upgrade from Safari to "O'Reilly online learning" with a discount for the first year, and the links were all going to genuine domains. But whenever I tried to actually do it, there was no way for me to see/do the offer on their site, despite being within the offer window. I wrote to confirm I wanted to use the discount, and asked for help, and they just wrote back and said "send us the email." So instead, I used all my download tokens (which also broke and required contacting support), canceled, and got an ACM membership for much cheaper. (Which I would have done anyway had I had a reason to seek it out.) Oh well. There is enough web content today that I don't think it matters that much.

geodel 5y ago
Yes, I got email , I think yesterday. O'Reilly was really useful platform for learning. It seems they couldn't renegotiate it for ACM users. To be honest I could have paid more to have O'reilly access.
ellen364 5y ago
> do you have the subject line? The email I received had subject line: Notice Regarding Your Access to O'Reilly Content

Someone 5y ago

Why would it be related? Losing the O’Reilly platform makes your ACM membership less valuable. I don’t see this making it more valuable. If anything, it makes it less valuable, as subscribing won’t gain you access to papers published before 2000 anymore (you’ll still have it, but you also will have it is you aren’t an ACM member)

tinalumfoil 5y ago
I didn't realize these articles were already available for me. You're right then that this doesn't exactly add value to an ACM membership. But maybe this is to make room to expand the ACM Digital Library in other ways.

mooneater 5y ago

I will quit ACM, this is the only perk that mattered.

mooneater 5y ago
Downvoters: fine downvote me, but can you also name a perk that matters?
flor1s 5y ago
The unlimited access to the digital library is nice, even though you need to pay extra. I don't think for example IEEE offers a similar benefit.

czx4f4bd 5y ago

Well, shit. I really loved that benefit. I might have to see if my employer will pay for a membership. Now I have to figure out if there's a way to save all my playlists and notes. Guess I didn't think about the potential downsides of storing all those in a system I don't own.

flor1s 5y ago

Oh well... O'Reilly themselves have been losing publishers, a lot of their books (especially containing math) are formatted like crap, their tagging is terrible. Hopefully ACM can make some direct deal with major publishers like MIT Press and Manning.