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Windows, sure, but OS X? Not in my experience. It's been rock solid and utterly reliable.

by ink_13 5y ago

bombcar 5y ago
MacOS does better, but it still does the "restart by default if an update appears" usually, and it is pretty darn good about opening everything where you had it, but it's not perfect by a long shot.
- 28304283409234 5y ago
  Atm: "....About 4 minutes remaining...." My third Macbook (company provided) doing an unexpected update. That takes 10(!) minutes. After the download. My ElementaryOS on a 6 year old thinkpad downloads and installs 3GB+ updates weekly, without rebooting, in 2 minutes! Mac and Windows are ages and miles behind Linux.
  - taylodl 5y ago
    Your company-provided Mac is being managed by your company - they have the ability to force updates and re-boots on you. If this were your personal Mac then you would not have enabled automatic updates. The fact that companies can manage their fleet of Macs in this manner is why they use Macs and not Linux. So no, Linux is not miles ahead of Windows or Mac OS when looking at managing a fleet of company-owned laptops and desktops. BTW - I have a company-owned and managed Mac and my own personal Mac. World of difference in experience between the two. My company forces updates on a frequent basis, and not just to Mac OS. There's a lot of software they manage and license on the machine and force updates.
    - 28304283409234 5y ago
      I do auto updates in Linux. Because they just work. And take < 2 minutes. And do not need a reboot. Regardless if I manage a Mac or not, the time it takes to apply the update is the same.
  - goosedragons 5y ago
    MacOS updates are ridiculous. Doing a point update (like 12.1 to 12.2) on my 2018 MBP would literally take no joke over 20 minutes. In that time I can completely reinstall Ubuntu and have already set basically everything up.
- mikestew 5y ago
  Oh, it’ll open everything alright. Perhaps it’s asking too much, but could macOS open everything in the correct virtual desktop so that I don’t have to spend five minutes after a restart dragging-and-dropping windows? It’s odd that it remembers that there were four virtual desktops, but then forgets which window goes where. And I’d swear that it remembers some, but the majority get dumped into Desktop1. Not the end of the world, and I don’t restart all that often, but it’s enough to make me hesitate come update time (“do I really want to be rearranging my desktops right now?”)
  - pram 5y ago
    Yes this seems like a total crapshoot. I have an application that always lives on my second monitor, and it’s seemingly completely random if it will start there or not. Just like this for a decade!

Windows, sure, but OS X? Not in my experience. It's been rock solid and utterly reliable.

by ink_13 5y ago

Windows, sure, but OS X? Not in my experience. It's been rock solid and utterly reliable.

MacOS does better, but it still does the "restart by default if an update appears" usually, and it is pretty darn good about opening everything where you had it, but it's not perfect by a long shot.

28304283409234 5y ago
Atm: "....About 4 minutes remaining...." My third Macbook (company provided) doing an unexpected update. That takes 10(!) minutes. After the download. My ElementaryOS on a 6 year old thinkpad downloads and installs 3GB+ updates weekly, without rebooting, in 2 minutes! Mac and Windows are ages and miles behind Linux.
- taylodl 5y ago
  Your company-provided Mac is being managed by your company - they have the ability to force updates and re-boots on you. If this were your personal Mac then you would not have enabled automatic updates. The fact that companies can manage their fleet of Macs in this manner is why they use Macs and not Linux. So no, Linux is not miles ahead of Windows or Mac OS when looking at managing a fleet of company-owned laptops and desktops. BTW - I have a company-owned and managed Mac and my own personal Mac. World of difference in experience between the two. My company forces updates on a frequent basis, and not just to Mac OS. There's a lot of software they manage and license on the machine and force updates.
  - 28304283409234 5y ago
    I do auto updates in Linux. Because they just work. And take < 2 minutes. And do not need a reboot. Regardless if I manage a Mac or not, the time it takes to apply the update is the same.
- goosedragons 5y ago
  MacOS updates are ridiculous. Doing a point update (like 12.1 to 12.2) on my 2018 MBP would literally take no joke over 20 minutes. In that time I can completely reinstall Ubuntu and have already set basically everything up.
mikestew 5y ago
Oh, it’ll open everything alright. Perhaps it’s asking too much, but could macOS open everything in the correct virtual desktop so that I don’t have to spend five minutes after a restart dragging-and-dropping windows? It’s odd that it remembers that there were four virtual desktops, but then forgets which window goes where. And I’d swear that it remembers some, but the majority get dumped into Desktop1. Not the end of the world, and I don’t restart all that often, but it’s enough to make me hesitate come update time (“do I really want to be rearranging my desktops right now?”)
- pram 5y ago
  Yes this seems like a total crapshoot. I have an application that always lives on my second monitor, and it’s seemingly completely random if it will start there or not. Just like this for a decade!