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The Russians I've known often contrast themselves with Europeans in exactly those terms.
by asveikau 5y ago
The Russians I've known often contrast themselves with Europeans in exactly those terms.
- dron57 5y agoHow do Europeans contrast themselves from other countries/cultures/languages in Europe? Wouldn't it be similar?
- watwut 5y agoI did not seen Europeans contrast themselves with Europeans all that much. They may contrast themselves with other countries specifically or block of countries specifically. Or say something like "the rest of Europe". I think that many Russians see themselves not part of Europe, culturally and politically. They are something different, especially pro-government ones. Europeans see themselves as part of Europe, even if they have grievance against something. And that is all there is to it.
- asveikau 5y agoI think they would contrast themselves with other European national identities but not deny that they are also European. I haven't taken a survey of this but that's my intuition. Ps. I suspect this contrasting of Russia and Europe may be quite old. I think of the Grand Duchy of Moscow and Peter the Great. That kind of contrast was very much under discussion in that time period as far as I know.
- sveme 5y agoIsn‘t identity always context-dependent and fuzzy? I live in Bavaria, so for other Germans I‘m Bavarian. For other Europeans I am German and sometimes Central European. For Americans and most especially Asians I am European.
- berkes 5y agoSame with Brits. Great Britain is unequivocal part of "Europe, but Brits will often call the mainland "Europe" and themselves "Great Britain". Brits get even more confused if you then ask them "But what about Ireland? Is is European or British?". Most often, brits will then get angry and just leave...
- simonh 5y agoFog on the channel, continent cut off. I think this is largely generational, for me even in my 50s as a Brit I also very much see myself as European. Maybe that's partly because I know and have worked with a lot of Americans, so I identify myself that way in contrast to them. Although us Anglophones also need to stick together against those Europeans.
- arethuza 5y ago'Brits will often call the mainland "Europe" and themselves "Great Britain"' Let's just say that this kind of thing is a rather sore point for a lot of people in the UK.
- talideon 5y ago> Most often, brits will then get angry and just leave... If only we could've gotten them to do that eight centuries ago...