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I'd rather live in a house that fits my needs and wants and personal style than I would in a mass produced apartment. I'd rather eat the type of food I enjoy ra

I'd rather live in a house that fits my needs and wants and personal style than I would in a mass produced apartment. I'd rather eat the type of food I enjoy rather than some standard rations cooked up by a factory. I want a certain amount of stuff in my life to satisfy my interests rather than living in a bare room and only enjoying communal property. I prefer to live in a world where silly things like mobile phones and video game graphics cards can lead to revolutions in computing rather than playing the same chess games and watching ballet over and over again for hundreds of years. That said, if you do prefer to live a different way then I'm fine with that, just don't try to foist it upon other people. I would like there to be an option for people who don't want to be part of the rat race where they can go live a relatively comfortable subsistence lifestyle and enjoy seasonal vegetables and walks in the park while the outside world rushes past. It'd probably be nice to vacation there occasionally to take a break from things, maybe it could be funded by tourism.

myshpa 5y ago
You know, the way I see it, we can have either star-trek like future, or blade-runner like. I would very much prefer the first one. And it does not mean we would have to have mass produced apartments (see cob buildings, hemp crete - the legislature/corporations is/are the problem). There is enough place to give everybody a house & a garden, ideally sustainably built (no plastics in the walls etc.), and with UBI live a good life, without beeing dependent on a job, you don't want, just to be able to live. What progress that would bring. I'm also not talking about rations and/or soylent - I want healthy vegetables/nuts/seeds, not the unhealthy food & poisons (herbicides,pesticides, vegetable oils, antibiotics, pfoas ...) we're fed right now with our exploitative market economy. I want healthy planet, full of (free-living) animals and clean air & rivers. I also want computers (not devices) and agi - but without nsa & patents, please. I can only dream. But if we continue to do business-as-usual and keep doing the same stuff over and over, pretending that the rat-race is essential to our progress, and pray for economic growth in expense of our living space (the little blue dot), that's the insanity Einstein was talking about. We don't have to eat & consume to the extinction. That was my point. And UBI might just be the way to do it.
- throwaway4aday 5y ago
  I don't see how you could have a back to nature lifestyle + UBI + anti-work + organic gardening and still have any form of progress. You'd need some kind of magical McGuffin like AGI robots that do all of the work and thinking for us. Even if you did, not everyone wants to live that way. For every barefoot hippy there's going to be a gearhead that wants to race loud cars and a thousand other lifestyles and interests that are mutually exclusive.

myshpa 5y ago

You know, the way I see it, we can have either star-trek like future, or blade-runner like. I would very much prefer the first one. And it does not mean we would have to have mass produced apartments (see cob buildings, hemp crete - the legislature/corporations is/are the problem). There is enough place to give everybody a house & a garden, ideally sustainably built (no plastics in the walls etc.), and with UBI live a good life, without beeing dependent on a job, you don't want, just to be able to live. What progress that would bring. I'm also not talking about rations and/or soylent - I want healthy vegetables/nuts/seeds, not the unhealthy food & poisons (herbicides,pesticides, vegetable oils, antibiotics, pfoas ...) we're fed right now with our exploitative market economy. I want healthy planet, full of (free-living) animals and clean air & rivers. I also want computers (not devices) and agi - but without nsa & patents, please. I can only dream. But if we continue to do business-as-usual and keep doing the same stuff over and over, pretending that the rat-race is essential to our progress, and pray for economic growth in expense of our living space (the little blue dot), that's the insanity Einstein was talking about. We don't have to eat & consume to the extinction. That was my point. And UBI might just be the way to do it.

throwaway4aday 5y ago
I don't see how you could have a back to nature lifestyle + UBI + anti-work + organic gardening and still have any form of progress. You'd need some kind of magical McGuffin like AGI robots that do all of the work and thinking for us. Even if you did, not everyone wants to live that way. For every barefoot hippy there's going to be a gearhead that wants to race loud cars and a thousand other lifestyles and interests that are mutually exclusive.