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We heard about 'sars outbreak in china' around xmas of 2019, at the end of Jan I flew to the UK and at the airport literally every single Asian person wore a ma

We heard about 'sars outbreak in china' around xmas of 2019, at the end of Jan I flew to the UK and at the airport literally every single Asian person wore a mask, and myself. I didn't see any non-asian person wearing a mask. Wore mask the whole flight, on the way home I had 2 elderly people on the plane tell me I was scaring them for wearing a mask. I got back beginning Feb and went WFH while the rest of the office continued to stay at the office due to their boss not allowing WFH. I'm thankful that my family and I were in Singapore for 2020/2021. Now we are in Taiwan.

unityByFreedom 5y ago
> We heard about 'sars outbreak in china' around xmas of 2019 That's impossible, unless you're saying after the new year still means around xmas. Taiwan discovered it on Dec. 31 2019 via a Wuhan news report about several cases held in isolation. They forwarded that info to the WHO. [1] > At 6:30 a.m. on Dec. 31, Dr. Lo at Taiwan’s CDC woke to an alert on his phone. > His colleagues in the media monitoring unit had detected social media posts about a pneumonia of unknown cause in Wuhan. The original posts in China were quickly removed, but screenshots had been reposted on PTT, a popular online forum in Taiwan. Some commenters feared a resurgence of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), which had killed 774 people in 2002 and 2003, mostly in Asia. https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/ https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid1...
- scruffyherder 5y ago
  Taxi drivers in Hong Kong were telling me about some bad flu in the Mainland around Christmas. It was known in Asia far before it'd been reported in western media.
  - unityByFreedom 5y ago
    > Taxi drivers in Hong Kong were telling me about some bad flu in the Mainland around Christmas. I guess that's possible as a rumor. I had taken the other comment to mean there was publicly verified information at that time. Perhaps we just miscommunicated. Certainly Dr. Li Wenliang of Wuhan, who later died of covid, had told friends in a private messaging group [1] to take precautions because something SARS-like was back. > It was known in Asia far before it'd been reported in western media. Parts of China, maybe. I wouldn't say "in Asia" as if all of Japan, Taiwan, SE Asia knew. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang#Role_in_COVID-19_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang#Role_in_COVID-19_p...
- philliphaydon 5y ago
  Taiwan notified the WHO on the 31st of Dec. Information was floating around in China and Taiwan before that. Cases in China date back to October/November 2019. The Wuhan Doctor referred to it as a 'sars like virus'.
  - unityByFreedom 5y ago
    > Information was floating around in China and Taiwan before that. Cases in China date back to October/November 2019. That's not true, as the Time report clearly states. Cases have been dated back to October/November by analysis, not by news reports. It's also worth noting that the WHO's own website does not mention that Taiwan told them about the Wuhan news report [1], > WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan, People’s Republic of China. They received word about that "media statement" from Taiwan. The "media statement" was later deleted, but not before it was screenshotted and distributed on PTT, a Taiwanese social network. > The Wuhan Doctor referred to it as a 'sars like virus'. China did not allow these statements to be made public until around January 20 when they finally stated human-to-human transmission was confirmed. At first they detained doctors who tried to speak out. Taiwan was the first to publicly call it SARS. In early January they sent a team to visit Wuhan, then came back and said "this is SARS". [1] https://www.who.int/news/item/29-06-2020-covidtimeline https://www.who.int/news/item/29-06-2020-covidtimeline
    - philliphaydon 5y ago
      So what you're saying is that because Wuhan University sent samples to be tested on the 30th of december for 'sars like virus' sorry 'atypical pneumonia' (commonly used to refer to SARS) which was posted in a forum, which Taiwan picked up and forwarded to the WHO. That Taiwan did not make the WHO aware. That there is absolutely no remote possibility that prior to the 30th, anyone could possibly be talking about 'sars' in december, sorry 'atypical pneumonia', because it's not reported by the Times report or the WHO.
      - 5y ago
- newsclues 5y ago
  I heard it around that time from gaming news sources as it was expected to effect computer part supply.

unityByFreedom 5y ago

> We heard about 'sars outbreak in china' around xmas of 2019 That's impossible, unless you're saying after the new year still means around xmas. Taiwan discovered it on Dec. 31 2019 via a Wuhan news report about several cases held in isolation. They forwarded that info to the WHO. [1] > At 6:30 a.m. on Dec. 31, Dr. Lo at Taiwan’s CDC woke to an alert on his phone. > His colleagues in the media monitoring unit had detected social media posts about a pneumonia of unknown cause in Wuhan. The original posts in China were quickly removed, but screenshots had been reposted on PTT, a popular online forum in Taiwan. Some commenters feared a resurgence of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), which had killed 774 people in 2002 and 2003, mostly in Asia. https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/ https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid1...

scruffyherder 5y ago
Taxi drivers in Hong Kong were telling me about some bad flu in the Mainland around Christmas. It was known in Asia far before it'd been reported in western media.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  > Taxi drivers in Hong Kong were telling me about some bad flu in the Mainland around Christmas. I guess that's possible as a rumor. I had taken the other comment to mean there was publicly verified information at that time. Perhaps we just miscommunicated. Certainly Dr. Li Wenliang of Wuhan, who later died of covid, had told friends in a private messaging group [1] to take precautions because something SARS-like was back. > It was known in Asia far before it'd been reported in western media. Parts of China, maybe. I wouldn't say "in Asia" as if all of Japan, Taiwan, SE Asia knew. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang#Role_in_COVID-19_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang#Role_in_COVID-19_p...
philliphaydon 5y ago
Taiwan notified the WHO on the 31st of Dec. Information was floating around in China and Taiwan before that. Cases in China date back to October/November 2019. The Wuhan Doctor referred to it as a 'sars like virus'.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  > Information was floating around in China and Taiwan before that. Cases in China date back to October/November 2019. That's not true, as the Time report clearly states. Cases have been dated back to October/November by analysis, not by news reports. It's also worth noting that the WHO's own website does not mention that Taiwan told them about the Wuhan news report [1], > WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan, People’s Republic of China. They received word about that "media statement" from Taiwan. The "media statement" was later deleted, but not before it was screenshotted and distributed on PTT, a Taiwanese social network. > The Wuhan Doctor referred to it as a 'sars like virus'. China did not allow these statements to be made public until around January 20 when they finally stated human-to-human transmission was confirmed. At first they detained doctors who tried to speak out. Taiwan was the first to publicly call it SARS. In early January they sent a team to visit Wuhan, then came back and said "this is SARS". [1] https://www.who.int/news/item/29-06-2020-covidtimeline https://www.who.int/news/item/29-06-2020-covidtimeline
  - philliphaydon 5y ago
    So what you're saying is that because Wuhan University sent samples to be tested on the 30th of december for 'sars like virus' sorry 'atypical pneumonia' (commonly used to refer to SARS) which was posted in a forum, which Taiwan picked up and forwarded to the WHO. That Taiwan did not make the WHO aware. That there is absolutely no remote possibility that prior to the 30th, anyone could possibly be talking about 'sars' in december, sorry 'atypical pneumonia', because it's not reported by the Times report or the WHO.
    - 5y ago
newsclues 5y ago
I heard it around that time from gaming news sources as it was expected to effect computer part supply.