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>But labelling the opposite side as "misinformation" only to agree with them afterwards is disgusting. Is it though? If someone makes an unfounded guess and s
by jayd16 5y ago
>But labelling the opposite side as "misinformation" only to agree with them afterwards is disgusting.
Is it though? If someone makes an unfounded guess and states it as fact isn't it fair to call that misinformation even if that turns out to be correct?
What would be your preferred approach?
- leetcrew 5y agohow about not calling anything misinformation until you're pretty damn sure you're right yourself?
- diffeomorphism 5y agoNo, that is a complete overreaction. You can still call out "aliens did it" or other obvious nonsense.
- janto 5y agoFraming the dissenting opinion as equivalent to "aliens did it" is exactly the problem. When the opinion turns out correct are you going to continue making those categorization errors? What lead to that mistake in the first place?
- diffeomorphism 5y ago> Framing the dissenting opinion as equivalent to "aliens did it" is exactly the problem. You made a category error by somehow replacing "opinions which are obvious nonsense" with "any dissenting opinion whatsoever". Nobody but you suggested that. The claim was that you cannot say anything at all about any "dissenting opinion" unless you are 100% sure you are correct. That is nonsense. You can obviously say something about some of them, while not being confident enough to rule out some others.
- janto 5y agoWhat do you do with opinions that you think are wrong? Do you place them all in an "obviously nonsense" category and slap a misinformation sticker on it so others are not tempted to look at it? Because that is what happened here. What do you do when it turns out some of those things were true? Do you continue to curate the world with willful blindness?
- diffeomorphism 5y agoWhat part of "no, you don't" was so hard to understand?
- janto 5y agoI don't see where you said "no, you don't" so it's unclear what you mean here. Did you mean that labelling something as misinformation is unwise? Because then I agree with you.
- choward 5y agoSure, you can call it out. But don't censor it. I want to see how crazy the people around me are.
- fractalb 5y ago> Is it though? If someone makes an unfounded guess and states it as fact isn't it fair to call that misinformation even if that turns out to be correct? That's perfectly right, if you yourself aren't making guesses.
- SllX 5y agoDebate, free speech, a judicious tongue, and an open mind. What we got? People without a full understanding of the subject matter themselves acting as if they were the ultimate authority on SARS-CoV-2, and a cadre of sympathetic globalist-oriented corporations uncritically deferring to them in the extreme. It’s like some of the supposedly smartest people in the world just have their brains leak out their ears simply because a three-letter agency with such apparently big words such as “world” and “health” in the full name make some pronouncements and broker no argument.
- PeterisP 5y agoWHO had made an unfounded guess and stated it as fact, and called a position with as much basis as they did (arguably even more, but still inconclusive) as misinformation because it disagreed with it. The appropriate approach would be to state "given current arguments, we are not sure whether it is airborne or not" instead of doubling down on their assumption/guess.