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Right now, in Victoria, AU kids from grades 3 to 6 must wear masks full day in school - and only those grades. So must people on public transport. The fare for
by aakresearch 5y ago
Right now, in Victoria, AU kids from grades 3 to 6 must wear masks full day in school - and only those grades. So must people on public transport. The fare for maskless PT ride is $3600. I don't know what is the fine for school kids, but there is some as well. Vax mandates are off for most public places, but curiously stay on for most places you'd normally visit with kids: swimming pools, libraries, bloody open-range zoo! The latter one has also mask mandate! Oh, they don't really enforce the mask, they give you a big sticker "mask exempt" if you claim so! Luckily it is a green circle, not a yellow magendavid, so no cheeky parallels can be seen here. The government defends the staying measures with froth at their mouth, and refuses to give any indication to when they might end. But yeah, if you're a party animal you can go to pubs unrestricted and knock yourself out.
Who are the judges about how "widespread" the harm is? I can tell you that our family of five is 100% fucked over with all the "pandemic" measures. I am at the point of suicide, barely clutching to straws to hang in. All the tools I previously had at my disposal to cope with my problems, like traveling to remote crowdless places, or night dogwalks were taken away from me. I've put up extra 20 kilos, now riddled with conditions usually presented in people 20 years older. My wife is similar. I've got my blood sugar elevated through the roof. Not to mentioned hypertension and panic attacks. I am unable to see a doctor because seeing masked faces gives me acute psychosis. I am afraid I'm going to throw punches or worse, so I'm confined to my study and working my arse off for 10 hours a day, so that my wife and kids have somewhat smaller mortgage to repay when I inevitably kick the bucket in the next few years. Oh, and the chance to ever see my parents or in-laws in-face is non-existent now, especially with the bloody war now raging over the countries they live in. I cannot even send them a parcel, now because of the war sanctions, and previously because of "pandemic". Just curiously, if the war sanctions are indistinguishable from "public health measures" why is it inappropriate to think about them in the same way?
Our youngest son is 4, and he has missed the most important part of his life when he needed to get used to socializing with kids of his age. Playgrounds were empty for 2 years, and they are still largely empty where we live. Playgroups didn't run. We're now seeing him not fitting in in the kindy, with emotional problems. Yeah, maybe better that losing relatives. As if his relatives now going to live forever...
You may say it is anecdotal, but for me all this harm is absolutely 100%. Why should we've been fucked over something with risk profile smaller than everyday melanoma or heart attack? Or diabetes that I've got regardless? Why somebody decided to sacrifice my family to "save" whom exactly? Why you and other people support this atrocity? Forgive me, but I have nothing to say except big "fuck you" to you and your ilk. You're as complicit in my family's demise as people who support Putin in the destruction of Ukraine. Believe it or not, I'm not the only one affected and thinking in the same way.
- manuelabeledo 5y agoI’m going to start saying that all this was about kids, not adults. > Why you and other people support this atrocity? Forgive me, but I have nothing to say except big "fuck you" to you and your ilk. You're as complicit in my family's demise as people who support Putin in the destruction of Ukraine. So, I live in a country with a reported COVID-19 death toll of almost one million. Are you suggesting that supporting measures to avoid the spread of the respiratory virus causing such deaths, puts me in the same league as Putin sycophants? That’s nonsense. Also, I want you to understand that what you just said in so many words is that, because COVID-19 might not affect you personally, you shouldn’t care. Now, I doubt these measures would harm you. You harmed yourself by not being able to cope. And I’m not arguing here that the Australian government did the absolute right thing, I’m arguing that if losing your routine is going to kill you, you might want to take a hard long look at yourself. Me? I actually lost weight and became more active, and my kids are happy and safe. So please excuse me if I don’t pity you at all.
- aakresearch 5y agoThis response is so single-dimensional that I couldn't have done a better job at exposing the extremity of your position than you've done yourself. It is also so predictable and unimaginative that it could have been written by a bot. Is there a textbook with these platitudes? The rhetoric bundle is also impressive. First, denial. "Are we the baddies? No, it cannot be!". Realizing that you are complicit in suffering of others is unpleasant, isn't it? A non-constructive dismissal with a sprinkle of insult, a lot of projection plus canonical victim-blaming with a hint of ad-hominem. All in one bottle - what a bouquet! "Fuck you - I've got mine" - a cherry on top. "You harmed yourself by not being able to cope" - what is it, standup comedy? I suspect it as dead serious as people claiming "Ukrainians are bombing themselves". Because! We! Are! Good! We! Are! Caring! - how dare you to suggest that we may be harming you! How dare you! You see, two can play this game! I see, as time and again, that the original engagement was a mistake. The division is now complete, the arguments are futile, the heels are dug in and nothing could sway anyone. As a bear of very little brain, further arguments in the demonstrated spirit will only make me slip further towards the darkness of losing the remains of faith in humanity. Today was a better-ish day, so I won't make this mistake, if only for the sake of staying sane. I can only add my "Q.E.D." under your response. Hopefully some people visiting this dark corner of HN will be able to see for themselves. I am certainly don't need your pity, and neither my family. We'll find a way, despite the world efforts to sink us, enthusiastically supported by you. However, on the eve of Good Friday I may extend my forgiveness to you. God bless!