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It's super frustrating that AWS has no equivalent to GCP's Cloud Run which offers fast startup, scales to zero but offers the flexibility and simply exposing HT

It's super frustrating that AWS has no equivalent to GCP's Cloud Run which offers fast startup, scales to zero but offers the flexibility and simply exposing HTTP to the container it runs. Lambda has scale to zero and fast startup but its custom RPC interface (presumably an outgrowth of its batch processing origins) does not support streaming responses, has awkward response size limits, and prevents multiple requests from being executed concurrently on the same instance (so caches cannot be shared.) Fargate provides the flexibility from simply running an HTTP server inside a container but at the cost of slower startup and no ability to scale to zero.

recuter 5y ago
Fargate is what, 3 cents an hour? And of course it can scale to zero, it uses standard autoscaling groups. It will scale however you want, heck use custom scaling logic with your control plane running in Lambda :) https://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/application/userguide/application-auto-scaling-step-scaling-policies.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/application/userguid...
- suprfsat 5y ago
  For 3 cents a _month_ Cloud Run can store over a gigabyte of containers and run them on-demand.
- laurencerowe 5y ago
  My understanding was that you would get error responses from the load balancer if you set Fargate to scale all the way down to zero: https://serverfault.com/a/951440 https://serverfault.com/a/951440
- wahnfrieden 5y ago
  scale to zero means without downtime
otterley 5y ago
The closest analogous service that runs containers in the simplest manner possible would be AWS App Runner: https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ It scales almost to zero (minimum cost is the memory dedicated to a single task).
- laurencerowe 5y ago
  Last time I looked apprunner was unable to access RDS databases but I see this was recently added which makes it a viable option for me now! https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2022/02/aws-app-runner-amazon-vpc/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2022/02/aws-app-r...
  - laurencerowe 5y ago
    Though with memory limited to just 4gb (vs 10gb for lambda and 16gb for cloud run) it may not be viable for my app. Somewhat frustrating that the ephemeral storage mentioned in the documentation provides no clue as to the amount available. https://github.com/aws/apprunner-roadmap/issues/112 https://github.com/aws/apprunner-roadmap/issues/112
- vosper 5y ago
  Do you know how App Runner compares to Elastic Beanstalk? There are so many AWS services these days I have no idea what to use half the time…
mhoad 5y ago
Worse still because Cloud Run is basically just managed KNative it’s not some crazy proprietary technology that Amazon would have to develop in house.
- harpratap 5y ago
  It's not managed KNative - https://ahmet.im/blog/cloud-run-is-a-knative/index.html https://ahmet.im/blog/cloud-run-is-a-knative/index.html It's implementing KNative API but on GCP Infra

recuter 5y ago

Fargate is what, 3 cents an hour? And of course it can scale to zero, it uses standard autoscaling groups. It will scale however you want, heck use custom scaling logic with your control plane running in Lambda :) https://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/application/userguide/application-auto-scaling-step-scaling-policies.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/application/userguid...

suprfsat 5y ago
For 3 cents a _month_ Cloud Run can store over a gigabyte of containers and run them on-demand.
laurencerowe 5y ago
My understanding was that you would get error responses from the load balancer if you set Fargate to scale all the way down to zero: https://serverfault.com/a/951440 https://serverfault.com/a/951440
wahnfrieden 5y ago
scale to zero means without downtime

otterley 5y ago

The closest analogous service that runs containers in the simplest manner possible would be AWS App Runner: https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ It scales almost to zero (minimum cost is the memory dedicated to a single task).

laurencerowe 5y ago
Last time I looked apprunner was unable to access RDS databases but I see this was recently added which makes it a viable option for me now! https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2022/02/aws-app-runner-amazon-vpc/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2022/02/aws-app-r...
- laurencerowe 5y ago
  Though with memory limited to just 4gb (vs 10gb for lambda and 16gb for cloud run) it may not be viable for my app. Somewhat frustrating that the ephemeral storage mentioned in the documentation provides no clue as to the amount available. https://github.com/aws/apprunner-roadmap/issues/112 https://github.com/aws/apprunner-roadmap/issues/112
vosper 5y ago
Do you know how App Runner compares to Elastic Beanstalk? There are so many AWS services these days I have no idea what to use half the time…

mhoad 5y ago

Worse still because Cloud Run is basically just managed KNative it’s not some crazy proprietary technology that Amazon would have to develop in house.

harpratap 5y ago
It's not managed KNative - https://ahmet.im/blog/cloud-run-is-a-knative/index.html https://ahmet.im/blog/cloud-run-is-a-knative/index.html It's implementing KNative API but on GCP Infra