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Rosgvardia is more like Gestapo. I would call Wagner Group their real SS, it has people coming from outside of Russia in the same way that SS had. https://en.w

by type0 5y ago

Rosgvardia is more like Gestapo. I would call Wagner Group their real SS, it has people coming from outside of Russia in the same way that SS had. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group from Wikipedia: >> The company's name comes from Utkin's own call sign "Wagner" after the German composer Richard Wagner, which he is said to have chosen due to his passion for the Third Reich (Wagner being Adolf Hitler's favorite composer). Putin is basically a mini Hitler

trhway 5y ago
Gestapo was a kind of police, just extremely brutal and politically targeted. Rosguardia isn't police, not even close, and in particular it doesn't do investigations. It is just an armed force that is applied against civilians. SS was an armed force directly under political command and outside of military command, and thus it was widely used against civilian population, in particular on occupied territories. The SS didn't do any investigations/etc. The Rosguardia is exactly like that - directly reports to Putin, and it is thus not subject to even minimum rules/regulation/oversight what the military is subject to. Thus Rosguardia has been used against Russian civilian population, and is now used against civilians on occupied territories, just like SS. Wagner Group is a a kind small special force outside of law. It can be used for anything of course. It hasn't been noticed though in massive pacifications (even if just for the reason of it being too small for that), its role has so far been more like targeted terror at various places in the world where Russia has visible and not so visible engagements. >Putin is basically a mini Hitler the "mini" part may unfortunately be just temporary as the things may just be starting, and Hitler didn't have nukes. And unfortunately Russian Nazism isn't limited to Putin and his cronies, it is the country level issue, and (while it may be just a failure of my imagination) i don't see a way out other than forcing the 1945 scenario onto Russia like it was done back then to Germany.
- type0 5y ago
  It's seems that you are right. Speaking of disappearing activists and city officials I heard that a lot of that was done by FSB and that is "Gestapo" i.e secret police.
  - trhway 5y ago
    yes, FSB do provide lists of people to arrest, etc. and may "work" with arrested for intelligence/etc. The actual foot work on the ground is mostly done by Rosguardia. There is just not enough FSB people for that and they are more "valuable" (and their displeasure would be more dangerous to Putin) than the expendable Rosguardia bodies.

by type0 5y ago

trhway 5y ago

Gestapo was a kind of police, just extremely brutal and politically targeted. Rosguardia isn't police, not even close, and in particular it doesn't do investigations. It is just an armed force that is applied against civilians. SS was an armed force directly under political command and outside of military command, and thus it was widely used against civilian population, in particular on occupied territories. The SS didn't do any investigations/etc. The Rosguardia is exactly like that - directly reports to Putin, and it is thus not subject to even minimum rules/regulation/oversight what the military is subject to. Thus Rosguardia has been used against Russian civilian population, and is now used against civilians on occupied territories, just like SS. Wagner Group is a a kind small special force outside of law. It can be used for anything of course. It hasn't been noticed though in massive pacifications (even if just for the reason of it being too small for that), its role has so far been more like targeted terror at various places in the world where Russia has visible and not so visible engagements. >Putin is basically a mini Hitler the "mini" part may unfortunately be just temporary as the things may just be starting, and Hitler didn't have nukes. And unfortunately Russian Nazism isn't limited to Putin and his cronies, it is the country level issue, and (while it may be just a failure of my imagination) i don't see a way out other than forcing the 1945 scenario onto Russia like it was done back then to Germany.

type0 5y ago
It's seems that you are right. Speaking of disappearing activists and city officials I heard that a lot of that was done by FSB and that is "Gestapo" i.e secret police.
- trhway 5y ago
  yes, FSB do provide lists of people to arrest, etc. and may "work" with arrested for intelligence/etc. The actual foot work on the ground is mostly done by Rosguardia. There is just not enough FSB people for that and they are more "valuable" (and their displeasure would be more dangerous to Putin) than the expendable Rosguardia bodies.